A Common Virus May Contribute to Obesity

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Ironhorse — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:47:46 GMT

Hah! Anti-adenovirus antibodies happen to be functional anti-gliadin antibodies (and vice versa). Because of the mimicary between wheat gliadin and adenovirus surface protiens, it has been hypothesiszed that adenovirus infection precipitates or aggravates gluten sensitivity and Celiac Disease! So, to what extent could the proposed “obesity” vaccine precipitate or aggravate gluten sensitivity or Celiac Disease?

Since celiac’s have just as much risk of being obese as being emaciated, I have to wonder to what extent common but unrecognized gluten sensitivity and Celiac Disease factored into the ACS Studies.

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Cthulhu — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:18:15 GMT

THEY are just looking for a way to profit off of obesity as a "Disease".

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Jonathan B — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:46:24 GMT

I have recently taken on my 310 pounds in a life and death struggle, and since I have tried a lot of traditional diets and found I gained weight on them, I tried a different tack.

First, I remembered that a lot of overweight and ill and arthritic dogs have been found to be on a diet of dog food that is extremely processed, and overcooked, and totally lacking in enzymes, so I decided to increase my consumption of living foods, and reduce the cooked ones. I do not worry about calories so much as type of foods, so I eat raw walnuts, raisins, blueberries, coconut flakes, fresh fruit, melons, watermelon and salad greens daily.

Next, I decided that one of my major triggers to binge eating is food allergies, so I have eliminated processed bread, white flour, sugar, sodas, the deadly nightshade family( potatoes, tomatoes, green peppers, and eggplant)

I also avoid toxins like nitrites, so I have eliminated sliced sandwich meats and ribs.

I have an occasional vietnamese baggette sandwich with raw vegetables, cilantro and chicken spread that is made at a local asian market, but otherwise avoid bread. I also eat occasional home made broth and soups, especially butternut squash soup and egg noodle chicken soup. I have brown and white rice in moderation, but avoid mexican dishes now, since so many use tomato products and green peppers in the recipes.

After three weeks of this, combined with a day on, day off exercise regimen, to keep my arthritis from getting too irritated, I have found that my arthritis has been reducing, my stomach has reduced in size so I have moved two notches on y belt, and I can wear jeans that I have not worn in a year. I can touch my toes again, and I can suck in my gut a few inches, whereas my gut was as taunt as a drum. How much weight I have lost, I cannot say, since I am not going to weigh myself for a few months, but I can say that what I am doing is doing wonders for my psyche, and I like walking again.

re: A Common Virus May Contribute to Obesity

corgi — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:11:30 GMT

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Fred Potter — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:42:47 GMT

>Being in harmony with a virus

what on earth does that mean? You have to fight viruses not talk fondly to them.

Exercise is right. Unfortunately, some poor people weigh 80 stone and can't even get out of bed

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bagarino — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:02:02 GMT

This is utter rubbish. Yet another excuse for overweight people to say "it's not that I'm greedy / eat rubbish / barely move" but I've got fat genes / an underactive thyroid / a long intestine and absorb my food too efficiently (the latter classic from a lady I knew a few years ago. Now they can say 'I got a viral infection when I was young'.

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vida khan — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:55:19 GMT

continued......I exercise about 5 times a week too. Still, it does not do any good. I have tried so many different diets, I even tried Mercola's no grain diet. I am definitely a protein type, but even if I reduce my carbs to 20 or 30 grams a day, I still don't seem to lose any weight. Now I am trying a candida diet, since I think my problem my be to due a yeast overgrowth...so besides no sugar, no grains, no fruit, and very low carbs, I'm not eating any dairy (besides butter,) any vinegar and no mushrooms...still nothing. I eat anywhere from 1500-2000 calories a day. I try to stick to high fat, cause low fat actually makes me gain weight. So what is a person like me supposed to do? I haven't eaten bread in over a month, while most would have lost 20 lbs by now, I can't lose not one.

Really, I feel healthy and I am in good health. I'm on no medication whatsoever, my blood stats are perfect, I'm active, and I feel great, my RHR is always between 55 and 60. I never ever get sick, maybe every two or three years I get a cold, but that's it.

So I just continue to live the way I do because I know, despite the extra weight, that I am in good health. Still waiting for someone to help people like me or to figure out what the cause may be. Someone needs to come up with a better solution with just eat less and exercise.

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vida khan — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:45:48 GMT

First of all, you don't catch viruses.

Then I'd like to say that I think the reason why obese people are more likely than thin people to get certain illnesses is not only because of the extra weight, but because they are desperate. Desperation makes people do crazy things. Most overweight people eat a bunch of unhealthy garbage because they think it will help them to lose weight...low fat this and fat free that. Also, they will do anything to lose weight, put anything into their body, any kind of pill from the ones that promise to miraculously help you lose pounds without diet and exercise to the ones that just say they might help suppress the appetite. Thin people don't poison their body in this way, because they are not desperate to lose weight. Personally, I think it is all those diet pills and products that do more harm than the extra weight.

Plus, I don't like when people say...it's easy to lose weight, just eat less and exercise. Like it's that easy. Maybe for some...some people just stop drinking soda or just start walking 1/2 an hour, 3 times a week and they drop pounds like crazy. For others, not the same. I've been struggling with it my whole life. When I was a child, my mom was constantly taking me to doctors to lose weight and they would put me on an 800 calorie a day diet and of course, I would lose weight...and then gain all back, plus some. I think if I was just left alone, I would be thin today. In my house, growing up, all you could find was low or non fat versions of real food...a lot of good that did.

Several years ago, I did my own diet with natural foods and exercise and managed to lose over 100 lbs and I have kept it off since, but still need to lose more. On top of that, I had a baby 4 1/2 months ago and have since gained 20 lbs. I can't seem to lose it no matter what. I live a very healthy life style. I follow the Weston A. Price way of eating, only natural foods....no junk, I never even go out to eat........

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jkroot — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:16:24 GMT

Wow! If only I had known. A virus! How easy it would be to shift the blame. As a First Sergeant, running a weight loss program in the 3rd Infantry Division, I was responsible for the weight and physical fitness of hundreds of soldiers. There is no excuse!! Not a virus as they would have you believe and certainly not..."It's his genes!!!!" A weight loss program must include two very important items: Proper food intake and (what we all need) exercise! Look at it this way....You have a bucket with a small hole in the bottom (you) and you are pouring water (calories) into it faster than it can run out of the hole (exercise). The bucket begins to weigh more and get very heavy. Get the point? You MUST control the caloric intake versus the exercise which burns the calories. The caloric intake MUST include those foods that are natural for human consumption. That means lightly cooked meat and fish and raw vegetables, NOT highly processed foods. In the 3 years I ran the program, I did not lose any soldier to obesity. Every soldier that entered the program graduated physically fit (within height and weight requirements) for combat duty within six weeks. We started at 4:30 am and finished at 6 am. And, oh by the way, Battalion guidelines called for physical training on Monday/Wednesday/Friday from 6-7 and this is in addition to my training. Soldiers leaving the program had high morale and self esteem. They knew they could perform any duty assigned. You must build your own self esteem by losing the weight you feel is important for you. Forget any virus. Give yourself a chance to be free from being overweight....good diet....good exercise.

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HappyDaze — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:32:21 GMT

Wow! So that bout of "pink eye" is to blame for my weight gain!

Not the chocolates, poor food choices or lack of exercise?

I long ago figured that stretch clothing is a cause of weight gain! Think about it .... cotton waistbands don't stretch .... you know instantly if you put on half an inch around the waist!

The other cause (for me at least!) is all those hours sitting in front of a computer instead of being outside getting exercise by gardening, and putting on some energetic music to do the housework!

Eat slightly less, exercise slightly more!!!!

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Debrah — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:50:29 GMT

My daughter needed the computer so I didn't get to finish commenting. I would also like to add that though of course diet and exercise are of primary importance it is also important to remember that depression can contribute to obesity. Of course, depression can be due to diet and lack of exercise, hormones and other drugs but there are estimates that 1 in 4 and 1 in 7 children will be molested, or raped--sexually abused by the time they are adults. Many people who are abused are anorexic or obese, have drug, sexual or other addictions. Bodywork such as Jin Shin Do Acupressure, can assist in clearing emotional truama that is stored in the body. Just another suggestion to help those who are struggling with health issues. Well I was going to comment on some of the other topics but there is a raging thunderstorm going on right n ow so I am going to turn off my computer and ---read a book!

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Debrah — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:45:32 GMT

I saw a study (on this site?) on Amish people who were living a more traditional lifestyle(farming) vs those who have started working outside the home(factory/construction for men and stores/restaurants for women are common). The results were that less than 1% of those living traditionally were over weight and those who worked outside thus also eating more processed food and not working as hard physically had obesity rates like the rest of the country. So the conclusion is that there may be a very small number of people who have an actual medical condition(genetic, viral etc) contributing to their weight problems.

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Rogway — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:02:10 GMT

My wife didn't start to gain weight until her doc started her on synthetic hormones. Then came another doc and more medicine, then 3 specialist and more medicine, then 200 more pounds followed and now she is all but bedfast after working for 23 years and not a pound over 140!

Today, it does not look good for her future. I have always believed that the poisioning of her liver from all of the chemicals from all of the medicine is the main cause of her down-hill slide.

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mmc88121 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:29:07 GMT

A virus causes obesity, what makes a person susceptible to a virus in the first place a weakened immune system. What is the major cause of a weakened immune system. Poor lifestyle choices. i.e. poor dietary habits and lack of exercise.

Mary

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chirocheer — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:47:53 GMT

Ha. We're all looking for something on which to blame our problems -- I think it's called a scapegoat. Whatever happened to accountability and responsibility?