Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

J J — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:52:30 GMT

How is insulin level tested?

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

hypoxic — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:20:34 GMT

Well, here is something for you to think about. I was diagnosed with type 2 two years ago. At the time I was 214lbs, I ate organic, healthy food, walked 5 miles 3 times a week and did kickboxing class for one hour 2 times a week. I am gluten intolerant so I eat no wheat or wheat products. I shop only the perimeter of the store. I was on byetta and metformin and my fasting blood sugars averaged about 170. I tested my self every morning before meals. I and my physician were very frustrated. My A1c was 13 after a year of meds. I know what you guys are going to say "How can you eat healthy, exercise that much and still be obese and diabetic"? You tell me.

Well, I found HCG. I did Dr. Simeons protocol and lost 37lbs. My fastings went down to 80's within the first week of doing this and I am now off the meds. Which came first the type 2 diabetes or the obesity? Did I have type 2 and didnt know it and became obese because of it? Did I mysteriously gain weight, with a 48inch waist, then become diabetic? The weight loss has certainly resulted in lower readings. I lost 11inches off my waist. HUMMMM?

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

curious7 — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:20:10 GMT

In the 1980s Dr John McDougall came out with the concept of the "Glycemic Index," or slow carbs, and the Medical world laughed, and Quack Watch scorned him. Today the informed Medical world has had to take a new look at this Glycemic Index, and eat a little crow. "Slow Carbs," as opposed to the "Processed Foods" most of us consume as a meal, due to the time savings, and convience associated with "Factory Foods." As we have destroyed our farmland, and built new suburbs, we are now looking a looming disaster nutrituionally speaking. Laboratories, and chemical compounds can never replace the good old Mother Earth when it comes to producing our food. The reliance upon these "Franken Foods" have deminished our life expectancy, and robbed us of a quailty life.

The FDA, and "Big Pharma" are quite happy about this because they know there is big money to be made from the various illnesses that result from poor nutrition. These are the reasons for white flour, processed sugar, and high frutose cornsyrup. These "Franken Foods," help promote the malady of diabetes. As we know diabetes is a 4 billion dollar a day industry world wide. So naturally they do not want to correct this malady. We as potential victims need to educate ourselves, as to what we need to be in nutritional good standing.

When we sleep plays a major part in our good health. Pay attention "Circadian Rhythm," and pay close attention, that is we should be asleep between the hours of 10:00 pm, and 2:00 am. Essential dietary oils can be aquired from vegetable sourses, such as walnuts, and whole grains.

Try a websit www.hacres.com for more nutriition help, and check out a book entitled, "The Makers Diet" by Jordan Rubin. At the same time do not forget that exercise, fresh air, sunshine, and clean water, go a long way toward maintaining our good health. Hydration, hydration, hydration, is very important.

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

Biggs — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:02:47 GMT

Chromium & vanadium supplements as well as the 88 essential minerals per doc wallach...dr mercola, any comments? I read & truely respect both you & dr wallach... (90 essentials.com)

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holisticwellness — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:21:02 GMT

The wonderful thing is that in most cases, Diabetes2 can be reversed under the expert guidance of a holistic practitioner. I doubt there is a holistic practitioner in my directory who can't make this happen or at least point one in the right drection. In holistc circles, Diabetes2 is so. . .Retro!! :-)

Kristin Kapp

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re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

Sheila C — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:43:41 GMT

The seven main ingredients of Eleotin (the diabetic cure) are Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Biotin, Magnesium, Zinc, Manganese and Chromium. This is what diabetics are missing.

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JanD — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:47:37 GMT

Recently it has been found that much of the diabetes side-effects are probably caused by a thiamin-deficiency. Type 2 diabetics evacuate thiamin at 16 times the normal rate! This deficiency wasn't detected until recently, because the traditional testing methods couldn't.

news.bbc.co.uk/.../6935482.stm

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

seg — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:24:41 GMT

It does'nt take a whole lot to "puzzle" these modern day scientists. Most mercola.com subscribers already know, or have a very good understanding of diabetes and the potential causes.
Do these guys know that some people have stronger pancreas than others and that's why it is imperative their INSULIN LEVELS (not just blood sugar) be measured and high blood sugar is just a symptom of diabetes...
Even if you have a sluggish genetic profile and are succeptible to diseases like diabetes, LIFESTLYE can have a profound effect and can actually alter and reverse diabetes - yes diabetes (type 2) is reversible, but there are "changes " to be made, like EMOTIONAL HEALTH, DIET & EXERCISE amongst others........

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re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

samurai — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:59:00 GMT

There is a guy that I used to work with, Ray.
Total alcoholic and yet quite thin. and hmmmm no surprise-- he has type 2 diabetes.
I think that type 2 comes from having sustained high levels of insuin and later, your body has been abused so long with all the insulin releases, that it just stops making it.
In Ray's case the constant insulin came from alcohol.

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

mmc88121 — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:28:32 GMT

Type 2 diabetes is not from a lack of insulin, it is from the inability of the insulin to allow the glucose molecule into the cell. Many people with type 2 diabetes have normal or above normal insulin levels. It is in type 1 diabetes that the body does not produce insulin.

Mary

re: Obesity is Only One Piece of the Diabetes Puzzle

Rogway — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:10:13 GMT

Interesting article. Come to think of it, most people I know with type 2 diabetes is not overweight at all. Most of them has told me that their blood sugar was up a little when they were tested, and the doc told them uh-oh, you have diabetes, you need to begin meducation. Others has told me their blood sugar was good, but their doc wanted them to continue their medication.

I have read that your pancreas just gets tired from being overworked due to sugar and the likes, it has to pass the extra load on to the cells, then the cells say, whew, I too am tired from working overtime trying to burn off the sweet stuff and have to take a break. Next thing you know, type 2 diabetes.

But also, I have read that some has gotten off of their medication in as fast as ten days just by changing their diet to the healthiest food in the world. Seems like it is always the ones that are willing to change, that are the ones who get better! In my case, this proves true beyond everything else.

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proatc — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:04:32 GMT

"Why, for example, are most people with Type 2 diabetes overweight or obese, yet most overweight or obese people do not have diabetes?"

Maybe the obese that supposedly don't have diabetes just don't know that they have a problem. Many obese people stay away from MD's to avoid the "you need to lose weight" lecture.

Testing blood sugar levels can be misleading if the patient lies (House) and doesn't fast before testing. And most tests are for blood sugar not insulin production. "It is likely that high glucose levels aren’t causing all the complications of diabetes,” Dr. Kahn said. And that is one reason, researchers say, why diabetes care has to include more than just glucose control."

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Lloyd Fielder D.C. — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:13:01 GMT

On a side note.........

Why is it that most birds found to have maggots on them always appear to be dead but that most dead birds do not have maggots on them?

Gross I know........

Genetics + Lifestyle = Expression

You may be predisposed for Type II diabetes genetically but unless you eat poorly or inconsistent with what is natural and healthy you cannot get it. It doesnt just magically appear without help of the inadequate lifestyle choices........

Lloyd