Vitamin K Linked to Better Vascular Health, Fewer Varicose Veins

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CyberCrone — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:31:58 GMT

I'm a bit late to this discussion but the Mayo Clinic page samurai mentions does contain the statement that vitamin K is available only by prescription. It's not the first time I've found misinformation on the Mayo Clinic site and I don't rely on it at all anymore. Samurai's mistake was to stop there. Availability of vitamin K OTC is easily verifiable with a Web search, as everyone but Samurai seems to know. The lesson, Samurai, is never to rely on a single source of info, particularly in matters of health.

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greenmtman — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:56:21 GMT

Wouldn't Kefir made with raw milk be a good source of vitamin K

Greenmtman

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GregB777 — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:33:27 GMT

To Patty:

Your symptoms are not unheard of for Coumadin users. It is a dangerous drug with terrible long term side effects. Here is why: Coumadin blocks vitamin K from being recycled. This is helpful to stop clotting, because clotting enzymes are vitamin K dependent. Unfortunately, vitamin K also is essential in MANY other processes NOT involving clotting.The two most important are the gamma carboxylation of matrix-GLA proteins and osteocalcin, and the production of sphingolipids in the brain, the most familiar which is myelin.Myelin is the insulation on nerve cells-it is what is destroyed in Multiple Sclerosis!Rats on warfarin(AKA COUMADIN)can no longer make myelin in their brains! That is because myelin needs vitamin K to be produced!Search MEDLINE for warfarin and myelin.Taking coumadin is likely causing the insulation on your nerves to wear away,the result of which would be MS like symptoms of burning, dizziness and other troubles.They have also discovered that vitamin K2 given to rats with MS-like disease HEALS THEM!Again search MEDLINE for Multiple Sclerosis and vitamin K.Coumadin also stops gamma carboxylation of matrix-GLA proteins and osteocalcin.These are the proteins that carry calcium around the body and put it in the proper place.They are like calcium "taxis".Vitamin K allows these proteins to deposit the calcium in the correct place in the body--in your bones and teeth.Without vitamin K,the proteins don't work right,and they deposit Ca places it DOESN'T belong-like your arteries and veins(hardening of the arteries,varicoses)joints(osteoarthritis)muscles, kidneys(stones).Ever wonder why older people LOSE calcium from their bones,but have it deposit where it DOESN'T BELONG?Does that make any sense to you?If you are supposedly calcium deficient,why is your body depositing it in your arteries then?No, part of the problem is that you don't have enough vitamin K2 (ditto with Mg.) Anyway, coumadin causes a lot of troubles,as you have found out.MEDLINE.

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curious7 — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:29:08 GMT

Varicosis is also a good indicator that a person needs to detox. Remove all of the old debris that has built up in the colon.

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MRL — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:25:00 GMT

Does anyone know if vitamin K can revers varicose or spider veins?

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samurai — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:20:25 GMT

Really, Nitrotjj??? I challenge you to go into your local grocery store and find it with the vitamins.

Don't post something unless you know what you are talking about.

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LorraineZuk — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:44:28 GMT

I am a 79 year old female and back in 91 I was diagnosed with atrial fib. and put on heart medication as well as coumadin. After 2 years on coumadin I started getting side effects. My mouth was sore, like when you burn your tongue with a hot liquid and I lost all taste. I could smell, especially pizza and when I ate it , everything tasted like cardboard. Told my Dr. and he tried to change every prescription except coumadin. Nothing changed. I finally researched and found the product "nattokinase" and ordered it. I told my Dr. I was going off coumadin and taking the nattokinase. He told me I would have a severe stroke or die. My response was that was OK because living with the side effects was not worth living. Having to go to him each year for a checkup and to get my prescription refilled, he was astonished to see what good health I was in. The second year, he stated "look at you" I asked what he meant? He stated "my father was a doctor and if you were my fathers patient he would tell you to go home and continue doing what I was doing!" (protecting himself from a possible future lawsuit???) Year 4 he called me and asked me to send him the literature I had on nattokinase. He had a male patient who was having the same ill effects I had and refused to take coumadin any more. He was going to recommend the nattokinase. This amazed me that a heart doctor would acknowledge that there is something better than rat poison.

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samurai — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:47:11 GMT

Know This: Vitamin K is NOT sold over the counter for a reason. It is easy to overdose, and is fatal if you do.

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JLLU — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:45:41 GMT

Help! Eddie and I are in our 60s and no meds until July 4th, 2006 when my husband woke up gripping his neck and chin - unable to tell me what was wrong. Paramedics took him immediately to the hospital where for 1 1/2 days he had tests and evaluation. Finally, they found a bulging ascending aortic anurysm and airlifted him to the university hospital for a 7 1/2 hour emergency surgery which included an artificial aortic valve necessitating, according to the doctors, that he be on coumedin for the remainder of his life. In addition to the anursym repair and the replacement valve, his aorta disected from the top of his heart to where the aorta splits to go into the legs. That was not repaired. The inner lining of his aorta separated on one side of the aorta and caused a false channel down the aorta, the body's major vein and compromising it in its strength also as the vein became thinner on the disected side. A plus for Eddie is that he was told after surgery that they had never seen anyone come in for such serious surgery with such clean veins. We can speculate incessantly as to how he got this serious condition with such clean veins, and one option is that he has a congenital curvature of his back which causes it to hump and place undue pressure on the heart/vein area as explained by one doctor. Who knows?

I am left with trying to do the best I can with his health. Is it better to try to up the good things which will cause the doctors to up the med which has its own set of escalating problems or is it better to do less good things and keep the meds lower? Are there good things that can help keep him in good health without triggering the things that they medicate for? If someone has never had a clotting problem, is it necessary to expect one now or is that another case of uninformed medical doctors who don't seem to want to find real answers? The choices so far all seem to be unhealthy. We are cautiously pursuing fish oils, some green food, and other

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BeyondOrganic — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:22:49 GMT

I purchased the Vitamin K drops from Dr. Mercola's site a few years ago, but was not pleased when I saw they contained Sodium Benzoate. I was also surprised that he would sell something that contained a preservative like that at all. I threw that bottle in the trash and never bought it again. Does the VItamin K that he now sells not contain any preservatives? I buy several products from this site because I trust his extensive research on products in most cases and trust them to be the best and highest quality.. I was just disappointed with the Vitamin K back then.

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moo_203 — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:50:46 GMT

does vitamin K help the blood to clot?

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Sheila C — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:28:07 GMT

Vitamin E is also good for varicose veins.

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mmc88121 — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:06:34 GMT

I noticed that this study was done exclusively in men, Women have the highest incidence of varicose veins why wasn't the study done on women.

Mary

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A.M.E. — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:40:58 GMT

Just as an FYI, those who may have a hyper-coagulation issue with their blood should not just start upping their vitamin K intake as this can cause more problems with their blood thinning medications. I cannot remember the exact article where I read this; but, I know it is somewhere here on the Mercola site. Probably under hemochromatosis or clotting disorders???? At any rate, I do remember reading about it and informing my mother as she is on blood thinners. The doctors have never been able to determine what her actual blood clotting disorder is (she's had it since she was 7 when she had a blood clot to her liver).

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phooey — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:54:35 GMT

Vitamin K is HORRIBLY underrated. We have kept all of the fat soluble vitamins in the dark waaayyyy too long. Weston Price's book " Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" told us of the importance of the fat solubles A, D, E, K years ago. Just like other nutrients look at how many different kinds of vitamin K exist. Just like vitamin D, K is also a prohormone. It is used to make osteocalcin which attracts and keeps calcium in the bone and out of the soft tissue. Vitamin K is found mostly in liver, dark greens, and raw fermented foods, and they are made by the bacteria in our gut. Americans use to eat liver from clean pasture fed animals, dark greens, and fermented foods regularly. Now we avoid liver (too much of that evil cholesterol), iceberg lettuce is our green of choice (worthless), rarely eat anything fermented (thanks refrigerators and food processors), and take lots of antibiotics (bacteria must die). Yeah, it's poor genetics and too much cholesterol that make us sick and diseased. What is sad is that we are just now starting to look at vitamin K's importance and none of us will fully understand its importance in our lifetime.