Coffee Associated With High Blood Pressure

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steve.m — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:27:41 GMT

To produce coffee the beans are roasted at high temperatures which, oxidises the protiens and carbohydrates to produce nitrosamines, acrylamide and other oxidants that are highly toxic and carcincinogenic. Apparently coffee contains more of these compounds than most cooked foods. As antioxidants are the good guys and oxidants are the bad guys, I suggest it is best to avoid coffee and other foods cooked at high temperatures as much as possible?

Love and light,

steve

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tihsbuster — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:39:50 GMT

As I have written today after 55 years of drinking coffee, I no longer drink it. However, I do an organic coffee enema as advocated by Dr Gerson which

takes out poisons from the liver every week. In doing so and with other means Dr Gerson proscribes, he has found that cancer is cured and a host of many other diseases, including mental health problems are CURED. Put *Gerson* in your browser.

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tihsbuster — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:33:00 GMT

Dr Gerson advocates organic coffee enemas to clear out the poisons in the liver as but one way to cure cancer and a host of other diseases. I have

done several. I take an coffee enema once a week as a precausion. Put *Gerson* in your browser. However, as I have written today, after 55 years

of drinking much coffee I have quit.

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tihsbuster — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:18:45 GMT

I was 65 years old when I quit drinking coffee in Feb of 07. I started drinking goldenrod tea which I had gathered myself (it grows everywhere and is

known to be a very good health herb). I soon lost my lust for coffee. I had been drinking coffee since I was 10 years old. I told God I would not drink

it anymore, and since the addiction has been broken I do not go back to it. I don*t miss it. I was a very heavy drinker of it.

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ehler — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:58:06 GMT

I am a holistic therapist, and I try to get my clients off all regular coffee, I like the the method of weaning off slowly by one forth, in four weeks.....ok, so then a really good alternative, is GANO COFFEE......it is blended with the reishi mushroom, so it is healing, calming....etc, you can drink it at night, and best of all, through the process in making it, the acid and caffeine are virtually removed.....I encourage everyone to ck online for it, There are different varieties, black, and others with small amts of creamer, if your worried about the creamer on the added ones, then just get the black, and add your own, but the 3n1 and the ginseng flavor are worth trying.....

to your health........

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curious7 — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:13:15 GMT

I have come across research that indicates "caffine" as a couse of breast, ovarian, testicular, and prostate cancers. So there is no stretch of my imagination, since caffine does raise ones blood pressure, that coffee would indeed be responsible.

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Loperman — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:59:03 GMT

I have a difficulty with studies that are based on non-organically raised coffee, tobacco, peanuts etc. Here's my rant:

Is it possible that many highly -touted, peer-reviewd, double blind, placebo-controlled, control-group controlled studies are flawed?

In my opinion, yes.

As Dr Mercola points out above, coffee and peanuts are among the most highly pesticided crops grown commercially. To factor out the effects of these toxins, a control group should run the identical tests on a non- pesticided, natural, organic, shade-grown coffee.

Ever hear of this happening in a commercail study? I haven't. (If they did indeed use organic coffee in this study, then ignore my rant, with apologies for taking up your time)

Then there are other factors, like the int'g observation by Peter D'Adamo that blood types O and A do indeed exhibit marked differences in their reactions to coffee (incidentally, Dr D'Adamo, are you using organic or commercial coffees in your testing?!)

Until things like these are factored out, how much credibility can we put in the study results?

End of rant

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jkroot — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:04:55 GMT

Coffee is a great stimulant. Does this make it a drug? Tea is a great stimulant. Does this make it a drug? What is a drug? The FDA and their cronies, Big Pharma, would love to make them drugs so they can patent them. Drugs are defined as artificial stimulants that are the only things that can: Prevent, Treat, or Cure disease (by artificially mandated illegal law professed by the FDA and the drug companies). In their natural state, coffee and tea do not cause disease unless you ingest them as your primary food. Then they are not the cause of disease, they are a reason for the lack of proper nutrition. There are other things you must ingest to ensure you get what the body does not process to ensure survival. I have been drinking coffee since age five (yes, my Great Grandfather gave me coffee in 1955, and for several years after, as a "stimulant" to wake me at 4 am to go fishing for stripers in California). I have been drinking it at the rate of 2-10 cups a day since then. Most recently 2-4 cups a day. Other than a minor "tic" that causes my head to violently turn to the left and my left eye to wink at the same time, I am virtually symptom free of all the purported side effects of coffee. Hehehehehehe. So the next time you read the """RESULTS""" of a meta-analysis or a """STUDY""" on the effects of coffee...follow the money! Who did the study? Who paid to have the study done? And, most importantly, who stands to benefit from the outcome of the study?

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JonBoy — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:48:24 GMT

wow good advice here thanks for the comment on the spray coating and if we r going to drink it to use organic but i heard a few mention to roast our own do u mean actually roasting it and if yes how? beyond organic i think some not i mark u down was because if u read the whole article it actually told us what to do to wean off it and to lessen chances of a headache just a thought as to why u thought them rude great article...Quality Coffee

From the Tree to Your Cup at www.watchtower.org/.../article_01.htm

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Wedgirl — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:18:00 GMT

This is a subject near and dear to my heart. Coffee remains as my only vice at this time. I don't drink it everyday, but admittedly I could if I wasn't determined not to. I have been on a 4 day rotation diet for about 2 years now. There is a day for coffee (the day I most cherish). I have noticed that my heart rate increases after drinking coffee on that day. I teach fitness classes and my clients know without asking that I have had a cup of coffee with my breakfast. It alters my performance (usually more energetic). I suppose that I really should try to reduce my intake further. I refuse to drink coffee after noon time so that it doesn't interfere with my sleep. I like to be in bed by 10 and asleep by 10:30 every night. That has helped with recovery and increased energy in the morning. During the winter months, I found that various teas helped when I was reducing my coffee intake.

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mohammad kazemi — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:57:16 GMT

one to two cups a day would not hurt. But more then you are looking fo trouble

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vincente — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:28:49 GMT

Well....I have been drinking moderate amounts of coffee for years and have no intention of giving it up. Call it soul stroking. As for BP--I manage to keep it under control (avg. 130/90, which at my age --65-- I am told is not too bad) but I need to take a calcium channel blocker (brand is Adalat) to do so . I have tried umpteen "natural" ways to control the BP and none of them work! I also live fairly stress-free, watch my diet, etc. but I chose to stay on the Adalat because I figure whatever damage is being done to my body over time is still less severe than a stroke or heart attack. Neither Dr. Mercola nor any of the other cyber-docs have provided an alternative to the chemical calcium channel blocker, at least not as far as I have been able to find out. It would be good to know just why the calcium goes into the wrong place and what could be done about it. Anyone have any pertinent information?

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joeday — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:50:28 GMT

What about the acidity in citrus fruits, and especially orange juice?

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Raising Phoenix River — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:13:02 GMT

i was 32 when i had a stroke. it started with a headache that lasted 2 weeks and every test possible was ran before and after..and no answers. i still have bad headaches now i have very high blood pressue that is getting worse. the doc has me on blood pressure meds ,amitriptilyne for phantom horrible leg pain and depression,the blood pressure med clonodine isnt suppose to be takin with amytrip and i brought this to his attention, he didnt see no problems with it in his other patients ...hello im not his other patients.and im on pain meds ,, yeah the ever so addicting hydrocodone for 2 years that all started with kidney stones.. i spent alot of time in hospital the past two yrs ive managed to stay out of hospital this year thus far im also on valium at night for sleep , it dont work as well as id like..and baclofen for my muscles ..all this crap stroke related.. i wonder somtimes if this doc knows im gonna die sooner rather than later. ive got allergys somthing horrible too. never did before i have to use afrin and nasonex to breath. i quit telling the doctor about my allergies cause he kept hitting me with shots that didnt work and cost me a mint..does anyone got any good useful advice besides get another doctor or rehab its been 3 yrs since stroke, could all the operations and procedures on my kidneys have brought on the high blood pressure, cause thats when the crazy blood pressure started ,i still got one sleeping giant i had a small stone sit and fester in my ureter without me knowing it my immune system was fighting the infection till it ruptured ,septicimia , my blood pressure was 41 theres one way to lower my bp. then they blew up my kidney massive hematoma from lithotripsy. thus blood transfusion.the dieing from septicimia was alot easier than the hematoma. the last 3 yrs has been nothin but recovery and raising a 3 yr old. hes perty dang smart. already kicked off his training wheels 2 months ago. ive givin up on doctors!HELP want a few more years

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nanciesweb — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:13:05 GMT

I drink a large cup of organic coffee in daily and my blood pressure is 101 over 78 (as of two weeks ago when the midwife checked me out)

Um, I don't know, but I thought that was low. Perhaps it's a good idea not to quit drinking coffee? ;P