The Tragic Consequences of Drugging Our Children

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MomagainstTSC — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:38:52 GMT

Thank you that this has been posted. It is absolutley rediculous that someone would come up with ADHD? We drug our children for being children because it is not "convenient" for us that they have so much energy so we drug them so they are out of it. We used to be able to go outside and burn off energy when I was smaller. Now we are using drugs. Are we just trying to let the government take over all aspects of our lives as well as our childrens? What future will their children hold?? We "immunize" our children and then they suddenly our of nowhere have Autism. I had a friend whose son had a stroke after his immunizations! Who really knows what is in those syringes that they are telling us we have to inject into our children before they are able to attend school. My whole family has had a record of seizures with immunizations and my daughter started her epilepsy within a week of having hers. Also, who would have thought that she has signs of autism???? It is unnatural to have all of these things injected into our little ones body right after birth. Then afterwards they want to come with atleast 4 needles at a time. It is rediculous. People, we either let God or the government control our kids. You pray about it seriously, and do what God wants you to do.

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dwwilliams — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:13:19 GMT

I really enjoyed he video.. However, when ever I see Michael Moore, I must down grade the sorse of information at least 50%. Michael Moore sucks.....

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saynotoquacks — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:08:57 GMT

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

PSYCHIATRY IS THE OFFICE OF THE ANTICHRIST.

This drugging of Americans is part of an agenda to destroy our humanity.

I'm sure nobody will read this, but nevertheless there it is. I know from personal experience what kind of mind-control those sociopathic QUACKS are capable of. I pray to God to be healed from their abuse.

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fredh — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:15:41 GMT

We can talk about children in the U.S. but every one leaves out one thing. Children today are left to their own . No one is at home raising children, 85% of mothers are in the workforce and the divorce rate is over 50%. I am 66 years old , how come there was no ADHD when I was growing up, mothers stay home and toke care of their children. Today women all have their own cars and when home,they are always running around. Listen to the kids in K-mart, wall-mart all crying because they should be home taking a nap .The suicide rate in teenagers is very high because of unisex, boys are not allowed to be boys, and the same thing for girls. Girls are taught how to have sex and never act like a young lady, dress like whore and the boys will like you. One more thing most kids are growing up with out a natural father, all they see is the mothers live in boyfriend. FredH

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VemmaHealth — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:52:51 GMT

I am new to this community, but felt I had to put my two cents in after watching the video on drugging our children. When are we THE PEOPLE going to take control of our lives and educate ourselves, and quit taking what the Doctor's say as gospel? This is a responsibility issue, OUR'S, we are the parents and grandparents, but most of us don't want to clean up our own bedrooms. So we complain about what's happening, but don't actually do anything about it.

People complain about the government being in debt, which affects the economy and their pocket book. Well here's the fact, the government will get out of debt when the people get out of debt! The drugs will cease to be a problem when we refuse to give them to our children and educate ourselves in proper nutrition period!!! 98% of all health related disease is caused by mineral deficiency. Our soils are depleted, we have major pollution and toxins in the air, so we cannot get the minerals our bodies need, no matter if you eat organic or not you can't do it. We must supplement with vitamins and minerals. If our children our given the proper diet with the proper supplementation things like ADD and ADHD will cease to be a problem. We need to be the example, they do what we do... Example: the number of overweight adults increased from 61 to 65 percent during the last five years, and childhood obesity grew 10 percent, from 27 to 30 percent of children.

We can talk about the drug companies, the doctors, the schools, the government all we want, but until WE take responsibility for our lives, quit buying the drugs, until WE educate ourselves in prevention and natural ways of healing and become concerned about our wellness and happiness, and do whatever it takes to make that happen, we will continue to have what we've got. Easy? No, I have heard it said, "don't ask for life to be easy, ask for it to be worth it!"

Think About it!

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CaptainKirk — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:47:24 GMT

Symphony in the Brain is a great book describing how EEG BioFeedback has been used to treat Epilepsy AND ADD/ADHD. So much so, that I was blown away that I had NEVER heard of this method of treatment.

Here is what I liked. First, true ADD has a rather definitive set of EEG patterns. Furthermore, there are at least 4 sub-types of ADD/ADHD that can ONLY be detected due to the EEG patterns they have. The behavior is the same.

In VERY LAYMAN terms, you have the primary part of the brain operating at Beta (Like everyone else), but there is another part of the brain, with stronger than normal THETA (much slower, almost SLEEP level), and they INTERRUPT the Beta about 3-5 times more often than a normal/healthy person.

Unfortunately, these Theta waves are attemtping to DOWN-REGULATE the brain (lower its activity level).

The child is FORCED to DO SOMETHING, in order to get back to normal.

The reasons the STIMULANTS work so well, is the FORCE the brain (especially the Theta part) to operate faster.

This reduces the interruptions. It is also why they call it Vitamin-R in college (where kids are taking it to increase their attention span while studying).

This is HORRENDOUS, of course.

This ALTERNATIVE Practice uses EEG Hooked to a computer, and the person is given gentle sounds to tell them when they are in the right zone. Helping the person to be able to CONTROL their brainwave patterns with a little focus.

It takes anywhere from 18-40 treatments. After which, the person KNOWS how to do it on their own. Some people become acutely aware of what brainwaves they are experiencing, and can shift gears in seconds!

Furthermore, after this training, RARELY does someone need any more.... Although HUGE stressors, and

some major life events have them seeking a few sessions to rebalance...

Anyways, VERY VERY SAFE. No drugs. Can help anyone.

I can UNDERSTAND why there is no funding or advertising! BIG PHARMA HATES IT!

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themoemoe — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:07:01 GMT

Our son was diagnosed with ADHD last year. We tried 2 different medications, both with very unsatisfactory results. By chance, we spoke to a doctor in town who suggested that instead of trying a "let's see if this works" approach, we have him tested to see which neurotransmitters were out of whack. What we found was that most of his neurotransmitters were substantially low - his taurine was negligible, a condition that could have affected his heart later. The doctor is a neuro-opthamologist, and she prescribed him a regimen of amino acids and nutrients, fish oil and probiotics and one year later his neurotransmitter levels are at optimal levels and the change we've seen in him is remarkable. He is more verbal, he sleeps through the night now, he is not so short tempered and his over-all disposition has improved greatly. He's doing better in school, and although he still has bad days, he is making improvements every week. We still worry about all the Thimerisol he was exposed to, and are looking into chelation as the next step.

Thanks to Dr. Mercola's site, we've tried to remove GMO's from our diet and fluoride from our water in an effort to remove any more insults to his brain chemistry. In the public school, we were repeatedly asked what drugs we had him on and in what dosage. When we began to explain to the School System psychiatrist the path we were taking, her comment was one of slight alarm as she noted that the doctor was "practicing outside of her field." What is ironic is that the most effective treatment we found came from someone practicing outside her field, because we were never given any information on non-traditional therapies from our pediatrician or our son's psychologist.

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Nasrin — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:10:23 GMT

Thought maybe ya'll would like some comments from a person in their 40's who actually is adhd. It's a sleep disorder that maybe one tenth of one percent of the population has. It is not a learning disorder. If anything, we usually are much brighter than other people. (I had a 3.78 GPA in accounting in college.) There are a few giveaways that you may have it. Anything that normally speeds someone up ie coffee, ephedrine, methylphenidate, etc. will make you feel better. And what I mean by that is you are able to sleep at night and (this is hard to explain) your life stops coming at you like a bunch of soundbites. This is what homeopathy is folks. A small amount of the poison resolves the problem. Someone who is really adhd will immediately get relief from any kind of upper. We're born that way. It is not caused by taking hard drugs. WE ARE ALREADY LIKE THIS. Someone who is prone to hard drugs probably has problems with histamine levels in the brain. Real adhd does not go away after childhood and if you really have it you probably won't be diagnosed with it. And if you do figure out that you have it, it will be because you realise after a certain point that your impulsiveness and hyperfocusing on things has made your life a real pain in the ass and believe me, you've self medicated until the cows come home, ie efa's, choline, diet, blah, blah, blah. I don't believe that children should be medicated. How the hell would a kid know if the stuff was working or not? I do think that adults should have a choice though. As said before, someone who has adhd will self medicate and the ritalin (methylphenidate) is far more effective, with far less side effects than that quadruple espresso or that ephedrine pill. You are not inclined to over medicate yourself with methylphenidate because it DOESN"T work at higher dosages. And no, your personality doesn't change, and your creativity doesn't go away. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to respond.

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wikat — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:18:43 GMT

I wonder how many of the kids diagnosed as ADHD are not in fact, and they are the ones that see the most benefit and improvement with the alternative therapies? It is easy to say that if it helped one kid-it must be so for all. We shouldn’t just assume that everyone that has chosen to give their children the prescriptions have not tried the alternatives. We can't beat up on those that have truly tried everything and medications are the last resort for them.

I am not a pusher of drugs but there is always a place and time for them. Who are we to say that someone else is a bad parent because their child is the one that needs the medication to function; besides not all ADHD kids are physically hyper-so how do you judge that?

These parents get beat up enough because of their child’s behavior-it's a shame that we add to it by making assumptions that "if they would just do this...or that...or not do this or that" everything would be OK and they wouldn’t have to “poison” their kids with medications . Most things in life are not that simple!

My heart goes out to all those parents who feel misunderstood because of the backlash for our systems over-diagnosing of ADHD kids.

Just my two cents...

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tracyskouby — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:45:40 GMT

I'm a little new to this site and can't tell you how happy I am to see all these comments. Hallelujah !!! I am a Chiropractor in a small rural town in the Midwest and I fight with our local school (via parents of the chidren I treat)every chance I get about these damn ADD/ADHD drugs. I often feel like the lone voice of reason. But, I'm proud to say that there's more than a hadful of kids I've been able to help through Chiropractic and nutritional changes, so that their parents didn't go the drug route. Of course the school didn't EVER inquire of me, what I had done to foster the improved behavior and school performance in these kids so that other children could avoid these drugs. They just offered a begrudging "I guess we can see improvement," and moved on to browbeating the next parents.

One time an 8 yr. old patient and his mother had just come from a meeting at the school before their appointment with me and the mother was in tears. She said they made her feel so bad about not having him see a psychiatrist, using drugs, etc... I know what kind of battle these parents are up against and it infuriates me !!!

I have 3 children myself and, surprisingly, the school now knows better than to approach me with this kind of crap .(I remember taking the first note to the school secretary about my kids not being vacinated and seeing the bewildered look on her face. They had NEVER had this happen before !!) But they still steamroll anyone they think they can. I don't know if the teachers have just forgotten what kids are SUPPOSED to be like or have just gotten lazy and would rather have a zombie than a challenge. But anyway, I am truly glad to have found this message board. I don't feel so alone anymore. THANK YOU !!!

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K.T. — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:38:37 GMT

This story reminds me of my nephew. His mother had him 4 months after High School graduation. I never had a problem with him. He was a normal child. I came home one day and he was rocking in his chair and looking at nothing. He's a teenager now. He is still on drugs and...you can really tell he is drugged.

This also reminds me of being younger. I passed out a lot cuz I had LQTS (heart electrical system.). All they wanted to do with me is drugs. I had ADD. What ever.

This video also is saying that PARENTS and ALL PEOPLE need to knock this off and start saying NO! All children are supposed to be protected, not just by parents. People in America need to stand up and start a movement. The drug pushers (doctors, teachers, parents, others) and the drug dealers (pharmisicts) need to be stopped.

I will be quiet now so I do not write a book.

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opelske — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:16:09 GMT

When we begin to take responsibility for having children and spend the time that is needed in rearing those children, rather than leaving it up to the State, then and only then, can we take back our rights as parents and rear healthy, emotionally and physically, children. As it stands, the State not only owns our children and gives the children the appearance that they have certain "rights" as individuals, it also mandates vaccinations, drugs, privacy and all sorts of insane laws, that only separate parents from children. Thus children become lonely, unguided, and undisciplined. Children are brainwashed when very young that is why the State recommends all this "early schooling" baloney. To "Honor thy mother and thy father" is politically incorrect and it doesn't take much to see the results of this way of thinking. Life is not perfect and all children can be unruly, dreamy, and bad mannered at times, but this is life, and certainly part of childhod-- THAT IS WHY WE HAVE PARENTS -- to teach by example and instruction. And, it takes time, lots of time spent with and being there for our children. So, lets take back our children from the State and take responsibility for their upbringing -- we owe it to them!

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Badbill — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:01:44 GMT

Jstarr, i know what you mean regarding what to eat & supplements to take, especially for the kids. What are the symptoms of a protein type who is missing purines due to his being a vegetarian? Does lack of omega 3 cause ADHD-type symptoms? I also emailed Mercola for chid dosage guidelines of products I bought from them and received no reply. I have spent hours online trying to track down info on each of the many recommended products and foods many times ending up no wiser. I truly realize each person's nutrition is unique to that individual, but even general recommendations or lists of deficiency symptoms are frequently absent.

Sorry for going off the topic, but feel it's important to know if our childrens' generally healthy diet is not right for them and may be contributing to their mild ADHD-type behaviors.

Anybody out there have any specifics, especially on the effects of lack of purines?

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Nicholas Donovan — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:56:17 GMT

It's interesting, when I was treating patients in Japan, I had one young boy, age 9 who was hearing the clouds talking to him and misbehaving in school. When I ran a full allergy panel on this kid he had an allergy to Buckwheat and Rye.

The Japanese diet is heavy in grains so was it any wonder this kid was having issues?

With my own children, I've had equally interesting experiences. All of my kids are in the top 10% of their class and some speak multiple languages. All of my kids could read, write and perform simple arithmetic before getting into Kindergarten.

I had a teacher tell me, "I think by the fact that they complete their tasks and then stare into space, they have ADD and need to be placed in Ritalin."

I smiled and asked, "Her grades are well yes?" The teacher agreed. "She knows her material?" Again, the teacher agreed. "Where did you graduate medical school?", I asked. She looked confused for a moment and said, "I have a BA in Sociology from XYZ College."

"You just made a medical diagnosis and prescribed a protocol for treatment. You're not a physician so I would resist the temptation to do that again." I told her.

What arrogance! Not asking maybe we should have her tested but declaring she knew what the answer was.

Parents, do not let teachers bully their way around with you and your kids. They are NOT doctors and do NOT have the training to make a diagnosis nor prescribe treatment. In speaking to other parents, many have had similar experiences.

My suggestion is to see a physician that practices Functional Diagnostic Medicine if you are experiencing problems with your kids.

All the best,

Nick

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curious7 — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:45:31 GMT

The earlier we start our citizens using drugs, the easier future usage will be. "Money" makes the call. As for treating the reasons misrepresented by the drug vendors, it can be treated with vegetable based Omega-3, just a matter of choice, in this case.

You see sugar is a major cause of the so called hyperactivity the drug vendors claim to treat. We parents are to blame. Read the labels on breakfast cereal. Lots of sugar, and lots of HFCS (High Fructose Cornsyrup). So by the time your child gets to school, he/she is ricocheting off the walls, not to mention the threat of developing diabetes, because of the basic processed nature of most so called cereals.