Puberty at 8? Girls' Earlier Puberty Puts Them at Higher Risk for Cancer

re: Puberty at 8? Girls' Earlier Puberty Puts Them at Higher Risk for Cancer

ChrissyC — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:54:18 GMT

I need help. I adopted a girl last year, and she is now 8 years old (almost 9). She is starting to develop. She is not overweight and never has been.

My biological children were raised on organic, all-natural foods. She has had this diet for the past 2 years. I cook with cast iron or stainless steel. I usually store food in glass, but if plastic is used, the food is never hot.

Unfortunately, throughout last school year, she was sneaking milk at school. That was when I noticed the breast development. She has not had any milk or non-organic chicken for 4 months.

I do not know if she received soy formula, but I was assume it is very probable.

Is there anything I can do to reverse early onset puberty?? A detox program??

Thank for for any help anyone can provide.

re: Puberty at 8? Girls' Earlier Puberty Puts Them at Higher Risk for Cancer

thewellnessguru — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:31:34 GMT

Hello, I am new to this forum, but I have read it for years. Something which I have not ever seen mentioned when people complain about the high cost of organic produce is wild edible food. It is abundant. It is tradition. And it costs nothing. If you collect wild edible foods from clean forests it is most likely more nutritious than organic produce because most organic farms were once conventional farms and the soil is not as well balanced as undisturbed clean forest, with an ecosystem developed and sustained in harmony over 1/2 a century or more. I happen to live adjacent to pristine state forest, on purpose, which easily provides our family with ALL of our vegetable needs- all you have to do is learn this stuff. Things such as cattail,, fiddlheads, clover, wild rice, lamb's quarters, all types of wild berries (strawberry, rasberry, blueberry, etc.). There is a great variety of spinach-like greens available. These things can be frozen for winter. Many can be dehydrated with a dehydrator and stored in mason jars for winter, keeping as much nutritional value as possible. If you take the time to learn the traditional foraging practices of the native americans who once lived off the land of your region it will be one of the wised investments you will ever make. You can start with the easily identifiable, abundant excellent sources of nutrious wild edibles, then you can carefully build from there. 2 good sources for information are www.OfTheField.com and www.wildfoodadventures.com

re: Puberty at 8? Girls' Earlier Puberty Puts Them at Higher Risk for Cancer

Heather Marsh — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:39:16 GMT

"Russ Bianchi

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And WHERE in the food and beverage chain is the single largest source of calories converted to brown adipose tissue (body fat)?!

High Fructose Corn Syrup! "

I understood that brown fat burns calories more efficiently.......

A little confusion?

re: Puberty at 8? Girls' Earlier Puberty Puts Them at Higher Risk for Cancer

Goji — Fri, 22 May 2009 10:17:31 GMT

Isn't it also an adaption to general stress in a population? It happens in animals, its an attempt to reproduce a species quickly as the body intelligence perceives that stress as an indication that the population is in danger.

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Cutie Boy — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:51:47 GMT

And no one blames enhanced growth hormones in chicken?

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vickismom97 — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:32:04 GMT

I started developing at 8, had my first period at 10, and was thin. I didn't start gaining weight until I was about 11 or 12, b/c of emotional binge eating. Being overweight does run in my family though. I tihnk it was all the meat I was forced to eat as a kid!

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DJones3423 — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:32:31 GMT

Yes, diet can be a factor in girls developing early, but other things, including genetics, are factors, too. I'm 41 now, and I started my period when I was 11-1/2. My daughter is 10-1/2 and looks like she's 13. She isn't fat, and she's a relatively active girl. She has not started her period yet, but she has shown signs of oncoming puberty for at least 2 years now. However, her paternal grandmother, who is in her late 60s, started her period when she was only 9. I'm sure that her diet 60 years ago didn't include all of the hormones and pesticides we're faced with today.

I think that exercise and percentage of body fat play a larger part in this than we might think. My daughter is very much into playing sports than I or her grandmother ever were. She showed signs of puberty at age 7 when we lived in the city of Chicago and she attended the public schools. They spent their recesses standing on a concrete playground where they couldn't run much without risking hurting themselves, and my daughter was getting chubby and looking like she would get her period as early as age 8 or 9. We moved to the country in Michigan just over 2 years ago. Since then, my daughter has become much more active outdoors, she slimmed way down, and signs of oncoming puberty slowed way down. We still drink store-bought milk. We still eat many of the same foods that we did in the city. The difference is in the amount of exercise that she gets regularly.

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Rivkah_203 — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:25:12 GMT

I'm surprised nobody here has discussed the link between higher amounts of fat in the diet and maturity, physical size, etc. More fat in diet= taller people, among other things.

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goldeneagle — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:48:04 GMT

I agree that hormones in foods are one of the causes. Minorities eat a lot of chicken. Tyson and those folks use a lot of growth hormones to produce meat faster. When children metabolize this, as well as adults, female characteristics become dominate. Maybe that is a part of the gay men community. Men need to be careful of what they eat as well. We know that chemicals are changing the sex of fish from male to female....

I know if I eat chicken, I feel like I am pregnate. I am 49 1/2 and still have regular monthly cycles, if I eat chicken during the month. Needless to say, I have cut back on my poultry intake.

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tyciol — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:37:59 GMT

It really is a tragedy. Unfortunately, with all the pressure society puts on people to grow up, that being adult is better or something, no one seems to mind. It's like people are wanting to grow up or get bigger even at the expense of their own health, even if it's not advantageous to them. I think it goes beyond even maturity, when you think about things like breast implants which are basically similar tragedies.

I haven't personally researched it, and I don't feel informed enough to assess the conflicting studies regarding hormones in food and so forth, but it is a concern I want to eventually assess before become a parent so I know what the ideal diet would be. If we don't know how to be healthy ourselves, we can't provide ideally for others.

It may seem odd, but I really like that extreme example of puberty beginning at 16. I think a longer period of androgyny will help bring down the divide between males and females. There will be less teen pregnancies if you couln't even get pregnant from 13-15. Also, with less hormones, minors can spend more time on hobbies, having fun, and learning, instead of feeling biological pressures (aren't the social ones enough) to primp and prune to please others.

Beyond avoiding chemicals and steroids that accelerate sexual maturation, what other methods are there? The mention of higher fat levels and obesity are ones that are concerning. In that case, could a healthy approach of caloric restriction be used to put it off? Beyond delaying sexual maturation, many people practise this to slow accumulation of free radicals naturally created by our metabolism. I don't really see it as a free will issue, because if someone wants to eat more they can get a job and buy food with their own money, especially if they move out or pursue emancipation.

People with low caloric intake and bodyfat tend to get cold. This isn't a problem. Wear more clothes! Minors wearing more clothes would be good eh? I'm sure they'd prefer it to fat.

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cowgirl7 — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:16:25 GMT

I was also an early deveoper who had to wear a bra by 9 years of age and started my period at 10. I was always big and tall for my age and already weighed 100lbs when I was 10. By 13 I had lost weight and could walk into a liquor store and buy a bottle without ever getting asked for ID. (I tried it once for fun!)

I am 50 now and disabled by Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

I grew up in the country in Ontario to Dutch parents who always grew there own veggies etc but bought their meat at the suppermarket. We never ate fast or prepared foods when I lived at home with my parents and had a healthy lifestyle with lots of outside activities etc. and Mom always gave us cod liver oil in the winter. We also never ate in a restaurant. We were however surrounded by farmland so I probably had lots of exposures to pesticides and perhaps even DDT. My mother had some chemical sensitivities too, although never officially diagnosed but she had many health issues including being hypothyroid, migraines etc. She may have passed it to me but not to my brother but perhaps she was still healthy when he was born. To this day, my older brother has never had any health issues while I have had one problem after another. We were both breastfed.

I now eat mostly organic and fill my freezer with naturally raised, grass fed beef, pork and chicken from a local farmer and the price is very fair. He follows organic principals but is not certified as organic which makes the prices better. I know he uses no chemicals because I have gotten to know him and his family, have seen his farm, been in his house etc. so I feel confident buying his meat. Our own garden was not very productive this year but there is a local organic farmer's market nearby so I could buy veggies an fruits there as well as our local supermarket. These are the best ways to buy safe food!

Bonita

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AutismAnne — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:01:01 GMT

There's another thing causing early puberty too, in my opinion - the vaccines. My daughter has high levels of mercury and aluminum from her vaccines, and there is a relationship between high mercury and high testosterone. At age 6, she already had 5 signs of puberty. Age 6! Her testosterone level was measured as 32 ng/dL

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jaygray — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:48:51 GMT

What about Invitro fertilisation. I am sure that this is leading to many hormonal upsets not only with the children born through this method, but also for the women who let their bodies be overwhelmed with so many unnatural hormones.There will be many other contributing factors, but this must be one of the worst.

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HappyDaze — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:27:24 GMT

50 years ago my mother taught me to NEVER put food in any container other than GLASS. Now a trip to the supermarket reveals almost ALL foods are packaged in PLASTIC! Have you tried buying something specifically in a GLASS bottle recently? Now the nasty truth about plastic containers and PET drink bottles is beginning to emerge!

We buy "mass produced" food with additives "approved" by people with vested financial interests and designed to make our food last almost indefinitely - cleverly packaged in plastic to make it still look good, or last even longer.

Meat is chemically treated so that it retains a nice colour. Even our fresh (?) raw veges are treated with chemicals. My homegrown radishes wilt after one day, but the ones I buy last several months.... what did they do?

Is there anything that isn't screwed up?

Someone introduced microwaving our food instead of actually cooking it - however at last the truth about microwaving is allowed to be told! The nutrient loss for most foods is appalling! Food now comes in plastic so it can be popped straight into the microwave by the unsuspecting consumer - so easy and convenient! Ooooops! They forgot to mention to NEVER actually DO that!!!

Yes, we certainly have screwed ourselves up in trying to outsmart nature and the natural rhythm of life!

So what are we going to do about it?

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Mad_203 — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:22:28 GMT

I was raised on an omnivore diet, like most in the 40s & 50s, but I didn't start menstruating until shortly before my 14th birthday. We ate meat, grains, vegetables, fruits, dairy, whole fats, salt, etc., but my foreign-born mother never gave us soda or candy routinely, only as occasional treats. Dessert might be a couple of cookies or a piece of fruit pie, or in hot weather we'd have ice cream. She bought our bread from a local bakery and I remember how much we children preferred the cracked wheat to the white. So while our diet wasn't perfect, it was a lot more sensible than many. Of course, back then there weren't the HFCS, growth hormones, GMOs, & other atrocities added to the already denatured & pesticide-laden American diet.

My mother never would take so much as an aspirin when she was pregnant. The rare times we were sick, it was usually bed rest and lots of fluids. We did get the vaccinations, but there were not as many back then and I guess my brothers & I were so healthy that our bodies just shook off the deleterious effects. Our family doctor (remember the guy who used to make house calls?) was of a different breed than today's brainwashed allopaths who hand out drug samples like Halloween candy. While not a naturopath, he was very circumspect in prescribing medications or surgery.

Oh, and one more difference between then & now: After dinner we'd play, do homework, maybe go for a walk. No video games, computers, cell phones, and even the TV was off-limits except for special shows. The day ended with what I thought was a MUCH too early bedtime, but I guess my mother knew something instinctively about the connection between sleep & optimum health.

So you might say that a balanced lifestyle, a good (though not perfect) diet, plenty of exercise, adequate sleep, interacting with family instead of electronics, along with robust genetics all helped lay the groundwork for my present good health.