Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

Jaxonhell — Thu, 07 May 2009 06:47:28 GMT

even with all of the facts and evidence against Baxter, they are still contracted to make the vaccine that is supposed to protect us from this newest flu "pandemic" I have seen reports that they are preparing 600,000,000 doses in preparation for next flu season when we are told that "it will be back" by the government. This is an astonishing number of vaccines to gamble with if you are just hoping everyone will voluntarily go and get their shots. We saw a level 5 from the W.H.O. for an almost nothing outbreak with this latest fear mongering and because of UN treaty law they can override our constitutional rights in the case of a pandemic. This was a test to show the public how ready they can be for when the real emergency comes. If the next round of bioterror is released and is even slightly more deadly the W.H.O. will go to level 6, then declare martial law and all of our rights will be gone. Forced vaccinations will follow enforced by troops and law enforcement who go along with the big game. It will take many deaths before the people rise up and put a stop to the slaughter, a true revolution. The first step is to completely disarm america so there can be no resistance. Then if you don't take the shot, you go to the camps because you are considered a risk to the public health. Key points that everyone seems to be missing is that if they are making the vaccine now, and the virus mutates like they predict, the vaccines would be useless (I believe they are useless anyway) but this puts serious holes in their theory. Also, if the vaccines are supposed to work, why would anyone unvaccinated be a risk to public health they are only endangering themselves. This whole mess is based on profit and control. Army troops are not legally allowed to control the public in america, and forced vaccinations are against our right to freedom guaranteed by the Constitution. I hope America wakes up

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

pitchounelle — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:07:52 GMT

Most of our doctors are brain washed, arrogant people who take their acquired knowledge as some sort of ultimate wisdom. Not all, but a great deal of them does not understand research well, so it is extremely easy to the Pharm multicorp to "sell" any kind of story to them. I think that part is the scariest because most of world's population get health info from these people and crooked media. People need to start trusting their body. it has tremendous regenerative capacity if not too abused by our unhealthy lifestyles. Thanx Dr. Mercola for the article and the comment ! ! ! !

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

mugschatz — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:00:14 GMT

Okay, so what I've gathered from the articles and everyone's comments are two inarguable truths: (1) There are rigorous protocols in place to prevent this kind of event from ever happening; and (2) it happened anyway. It vaguely reminds me of the Tylenol tampering of the early 1980's, when a MacNeil employee (or was it a store employee?) snuck cyanide into some Extra Strength Tylenol capsules. More recently, several parishoners were sickened after taking communion using grape juice that a store employee had laced with cleaning fluid. I find the concept of BigBiz, BigPharma and BigGov in cahoots to control the population and the populace eerily compelling and worth examining. Not to discount any conspiracy theories, but could we also consider the possibility that someone acting alone at Baxter has homocidal ideations?

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

mugschatz — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:03:43 GMT

I clicked on the link to the Bloomberg article cited by JaneWhite (who says this event never happened and the article would provide one with the "truth"), but that article just seems to support Dr. Mercola's article, although calling the deadly vaccine mixture a "mistake." So much for "It never happened."

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

Running_Stick — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:06:56 GMT

We killed how many birds to stop the spread. It is not a conspiracy. It is a very real problem. Is it better for us to hate a lie or fear the truth?

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fresh_air — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:49:34 GMT

I have come to understand that vaccines are mixed with other elelments that are actually dangerous to combine. For instance Mercury and Aluminum. Yet, i read once that these two have been used during Vaccinations. Dr. Mercola has at least one Newsletter that points to this serious risk. I need to search for that particular newsletter and see if i can't give the exact information for anyone of you who might want to know. Vaccinations are rather risky, and i was never made aware of this by any one of my medical doctors over the years. until i subscribed to Dr. Mercola's newsletter.

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

Youlia — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:23:08 GMT

To JaneWhite:

When only birds could have died by this "human error" as told by Bloomberg,

then I do not understand why ferrets died after testing the Baxter-serum on them.

Ferrets are no birds, correct?

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

roman2 — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:12:00 GMT

JaneWhite, you said that this event never happened and posted a link to an article on bloomberg.com. However, I went there to read that article and saw a clear confirmation of the article on which we're commenting here. Their article says exactly what is posted here. Here's a short quote: " Feb. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Baxter International Inc. in Austria unintentionally contaminated samples with the bird flu virus that were used in laboratories in three neighboring countries, raising concern about the potential spread of the deadly disease.

The contamination was discovered when ferrets at a laboratory in the Czech Republic died after being inoculated with vaccine made from the samples early this month. The material came from Deerfield, Illinois-based Baxter"

So, what hasn't happened, JaneWhite?

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jan939 — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:58:13 GMT

to Safebirth.......3/29/09....just cheched google again.....ONLY 2 "REFERENCES LEFT" BOTTOM OOF PAGES 2 & 4 UNDER BAXTER INT'L

There were atleast 4 or more when I first started researching this.......lol jan939

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

sonnysmaw — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:25:41 GMT

With all this conspiracy talk -- and it wouldn't surprise me one bit -- has anyone seen the list of containment facilities plastered across the States? Nearly every state has at least one -- most have 2-3 or more; one state has eleven of these facilities. Some of these facilities are reported as empty, but have a full time staff. Some even contain crematoriums. All are surrounded with high fences and razor wire. Some of these compounds are refurbished containment centers used during WWII to hold Japanese Americans. At least one of then is reported to be guarded by foreign troops.

Now I'd like to know just what all this terrific upkeep expense is expected to achieve, and what segment of the population is slated to fill these facilities. One in Alaska can hold about 500,000, is accessible only by rail or air. I have verified this report with Snopes, and have saved the list in my documents file.

I don't want to start a panic, false rumors or anything like that. But if this is going on in our country, someone needs to learn more about it I for one would definitely like to know what is going on. Does it have anything to do with starting a pandemic?

There is a natural cure for bird flu developed by Israeli scientists. The original formula was available through my herbal source, but the entire stockpile has been bought out by the military and the original formula impounded or destroyed. However, my herbalist has developed a formula that works as welll

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

sonnysmaw — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:01:15 GMT

This article about contaminated flu vaccines explains a lot. This winter a co-worker's family of 9 all had severe cases of the flu, and all had been given their flu shots prior to the flu season. They wee all prescsribed Tamiflu -- which was described as ineffective in treating them. They were very sick with all the symptoms and side effects of the flu and it lasted a week or more.

Personally, the last time I had a flu shot was the last time I had the the worst case of flu in my experience. And I found Tamiflu expensive and worthless. In spite of exposure to the flu every season, I have not had the flu for several years. If symptoms of a cold or flu begin to show up, I take 2000 mgVitamin C and 2 capsules of Echinacea-Goldenseal complex 2-3 times a day, along with my other vitamins and minerals. Very seldom do I come down with anything that lasts more than 2-3 days, or is incapacitating.

My doctor is always recommending that I get a flu shot because I am at that 'high risk' stage of life. But I have found this is a piece of medical advice it is wiser to ignore -- at least for me.

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

safebirth — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:31:35 GMT

Please comment - A search of the NYTimes shows no reference to Czech & Baxter Flu Vaccine problems. Your source? THanks!

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enforme — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:22:58 GMT

Like Shashi62, I too voted positive for Dave-O and my vote came up negative as well. Upon looking at the other votes, it seems as if all the votes are thumbs down. Are we reading this incorrectly ? Thanks for a reply. I'd like to know for future votes.

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jan939 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:44:26 GMT

drinking water...without discussion...adding highFructoseCornSyrup to virtually ALL PROCESSED FOODS

re: Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

jan939 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:42:24 GMT

I am absolutely delighted that these facts AND Dr Mercola's observations (based on his own verification) have FINALLY SURFACED. I was personally

Disappointed, when I could never receive a response....after I attempted to bring this story to his attention, thru BrianB (an administrative ass't?) around

3/8-3/10/09.PERSONALLY, I am unpopular with my family, the VA, a lot of the local medical community,and some in my church... because i attempt to take

an educated and informed "stand" against being "dictated-to,talked down-to,berrated, and minimized....when "one-does-not-accept" the SCRIPT, INSTANT-

DIAGNOSIS.... and Lack -of depth to analysis-of "routine" diagnostic-procedure" AND EVERYBODY MUST GET THE FLU SHOT !!! NOT ON MY LIFE.!!! I AM

70 yrs old...have never had a flu shot...all of my peers (+&_) who have...have been sick (here in the mountains of WNC)! AND having purchased,read and

digested"the great bird-flu-hoax' 2-3 YEARS AGO. That plus knowledge and information which I aquired in areas of immunology,toxicology, nutrition and

alternative medicine, during my work around the world (for 20+ years),working in the chemical engineering arena..in Water ! I am very loathe to accept any

opinion that does-not coincide with results of "listening to my body....&following instructions !

I believe the information supplied was/is verifyable, consistent, from respected, in-depth and folx not-in the conspiricy-theory-arena (maybe with the

exception of Alex Jones...sometimes !!!) Sincerely I believe that when we see the FDA in action (or non-action) to protect US (we and the 'late-great-

United-States) to allow the destruction of our "health-maintenence" system by disease carrying-illegal immagrants, the forced "vaccination of infants and

(further,) young females, (virtually-)intimidating (older)folx to get the"flu-shot", factory-farming-pastuerized milk, cheese, &low-fat dairy flavored poison,

pouring ratpoison into our drinki