The Scientific Death of Jesus

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uncomfortable — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:20:33 GMT

I guess the best way to describe my religious beliefs is to call me an agnostic Catholic. I wish I had the fervor of many. I wish my belief was stronger. However due to personal experience I do believe in the basic tenets of the Catholic Church. I am writting to ask other commentators to please not call other commentators names, i.e., "idiot". It doesn't strenghten your point but makes one wonder why you react so strongly.

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literally — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 03:17:44 GMT

Just a comment or two on a couple of things (to DDS-203)------When you mentioned how can anyone believe in the Bible because some say you can't take it literally. I am far from an expert, but I think what is meant by that, is that the bible was written by "humans" and during a time that was long ago, with different customs and beliefs, therefore it would not be possible to take the bible literally in this day and age. So many things have to be considered while trying to translate. Don't get me wrong. I am a Christian and am confused by the Bible also, but I still believe in Jesus, have faith and pray. My prayers are "always" answered, no matter how small. I like what Cracker4Jack had to say !!!

As far as believing in the fact that some Spiritual, non physical Being is watching over us, yes, you have to have Faith------Faith IS a spiritual thing.

My opinions

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Wandrin — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:31:27 GMT

When I received the weekly version of the newsletters, I do not expect to get proselytized, I find this disturbing. In the past as I've read the articles mentioned in the newsletters, there were times that I find some of the articles to be "too much faith and not enough of a reality check". Now that this article is mentioned and pointed to by the Newsletter, I am seriously considering the direction and editorial integrity of the staff. I remain skeptical, but this appears to the beginning of a downhill slope for my reading of the articles.P>

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Aiea — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:36:11 GMT

Mike, you are on the ball, too bad more people do not study history. The time period of Jesus was the most documented time period with many writings and journals. Pilate's court was documented by scribes of all the cases he handled. With everything that Jesus supposedly did, why is there no record of him by anyone that lived during that time? He spoke to gatherings of thousands of people, he performed miracles, why was none of this recorded by anyone until 100 years AFTER his death? Furthermore, why are there hundreds of stories just like the Jesus story, except written hundreds of years BEFORE Jesus came to be? Most Christians fail to study the bulk of history, when you only study one part you miss the whole. Kinda like the 6 blind men describing an elephant when each have only touched a different part. You're right on Mike, all your points should be positive since your answers are based on truth and fact rather than emotion.

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cyndilouwho2 — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:40:09 GMT

To everyone posting,

Very interesting array of posts! And thank you Dr. Mercola for this article! For anyone having trouble believing in a literal interpretation of the Bible, eg. 6 day creation, Jesus being who he claimed to be, etc. please read the books others have mentioned in their posts and add one more: The Genesis Record, by Henry Morris. I've been a believer for many many years, but have had MANY questions that I had to leave under the category of "Ask God When I See Him In Eternity." Many of the seeming discrepancies of scripture become clear as a bell with a thorough study of the original languages they were written in and of the culture in which the writers lived. I began to read this book recently and it has cleared up many questions for me. Hopefully it will do the same for you. Perhaps the most interesting thing about the Gospel message is that it is so simple it requires only a child-like faith to see the truth of it, and many of us stumble at that. At the same time, the depth of scripture is so complex it will take a life time (or perhaps an eternity) to search it all out. WARNING: This book is a seriously in-depth study - not for those with only a passing interest. If you want a SOLID foundation for your faith or have many questions that need answers, it will be a wonderful blessing to you.

In Agape!

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Backtobasic — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:58:38 GMT

Does this has a place om Mercola?I can't wait until X-Mass to read about the scientific proof

of how Santa gets through the Chimney :)

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dcorona — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:44:16 GMT

Mike, and any other Non Believer.. it is OK that you do not believe that Jesus died for your sins, one day you will know the truth. It may be to late, but you you will know, and you will confess HIM, and your knee will bow. By the way, it is also OK that you believe that you have an uncle that is a monkey, I dont have any monkeys in my family blood lines, or amebas or life that jumped out of a puddle of mud, as you profess, and its OK that you accept that begining, of course with that you also believe that you have NO future life when you die, because you will just stop to exist. I would encourge you. if, you think you can handle it, to look at the material that someone else sugessted, (I don't have enough faith to be an athiest) and also take another look at a KJV Bible. You seem to have a brain to think with, I hope you don't have to much pride to, grow. I will be praying for you.

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dada_exp — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:05:03 GMT

I am refering here to BarberaFHew's comment "Of all the God's..Buddah, Mummahad..etc" which shows this person is ignorant of other religions. We are not living in the medieval world but a scientifically advanced world so we must have some knowledge of other religions too to open our mind. Most of the Christians and people belonging to other religions thinks Muslims worship Muhammed as god. Of course Christian worship dead and gone Jesus who was a Jew and lived like other human beings, that is born, grew, ate, slept and preached. His life was shortened by the consipirators. What the bibles says and Christian beleive is another thing, but the fundemental truth is Christian worshipping a dead and gone human being. Buddhist basically do the same thing although the doctrine is dfferent; they worship the dead and gone Buddha who was an Indian. Hindus worshipo all types of pagan gods including living creatures like Monkey, Cow, Snake etc and also male and female sexual organs (Lingam and Yoni) of human being. Muslims do not worship the dead and gone Muhammed who was an Arab. Muslim worship a God (Allah) revealed in the holy book (Just study their main belief to gain more knowledge). I will be ashamed to call myself a Muslim if I were to worship him . Please pass this message to all those ignorant people.

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Gerri333 — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:05:15 GMT

Jesus taught that we need faith to believe in Him. We don't see air (unless poluted by man) but we know it is there. The same is true of Jesus's gift of the Holy Spriit and eternal life. On the other side of this, however, is Hell. For anyone not believing in Hell, I urge them to read the book written by Bill Wiese of his experience titled "23 Minutes in Hell". This is scarier than any sci-fi written for it is the truth. READ IT IF YOU DARE, AND IF YOU CARE ABOUT WHERE YOU WILL BE SPENDING ETERNITY.

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MySweetMary68 — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:03:13 GMT

Steve, would you please show me from the NEW TESTAMENT where the Prince of Peace said we followers should join the army of our country? I have read that one of the reasons early Christians were thrown to the lions was because they would not worship the Emperor and were know to refuse to join the Roman army. And what about the scripture from the Sermon on the Mount that says "love your ENEMIES". Just curious.

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FearNot — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:53:04 GMT

I have read all of your comments, but David, sorry to say, you're the most ignorant man I have ever known?No one knows the day or the time that the end will happen, but it will, or are you going to live for ever in this world?Oh yes, you probably will! Burning up with all the other ignorants' in this world!Oh, and you will have a God then, I believe his name is Satan, commonly known as Lucifer.Be afraid, be very afraid! As for myself, I am not..my Mother and Daddy were born here as humans, long-time decendants of Adam and Eve,(who were made in God's image), my spiritual Father. For you to say you don't believe in a God, just floors me! You should be ashamed to call yourself even an "APE"! Remember the time when you were a child and you got hurt or cried because your heart was sad? Who do you think healed your scrapes and bruises?Or who comforted your heart when you felt all alone and thought no one loved you?Oh yea, it was probably that science book you read or the peroxcide your mom pored in that wound that made you all better! I'm not sorry to tell you this, because I believe in a powerful God that does all those things, and more, for everyone who asks! I bet you don't believe in angels either!! Well, then who do you think has kept you from harm all these years?Factually, you should have already been dead!But I am glad you're not, because it gives me the chance to tell you, it's NOT to late!!!God will always be there, waiting, patiently,with love for you, to make the right choice! If all of these comments haven't touched your "so smart" brain, then all the advice I can give to you now is to get down on your knees and say you're sorry for being so IGNORANT!You will know what to to say,believe, to do and you will! So, when you have a moment to think about all that has been witnessed to you..oh yes, we are still proving to you there is a "Jesus",trust the millions of people who are praying for you and crying because they LOVE you!Only God gives PROOF!Jesus SAVES US!

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stevehubley — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:53:24 GMT

THANK YOU Dr. Mercola for running this article and sparking this all-important dialog.

Forget religion. Forget even "Christanity" (as it has become known for things far unlike "Christ".

But a spiritual journey focussed on the true, raw teachings of Jesus Christ - and a one to one

personal relationship with Him - is the only thing that fills that inner void inside all. The only thing.

So I encourage everyone to read the Gospel of John. Read also a great book called "Blue Like Jazz."

And discover the real Christ.

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happywoman — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:48:23 GMT

There is historical evidence of Jesus.

Josephus, a Jewish historian, and Tacitus, a Roman historian, both wrote about Jesus: www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-and-scientific-proof-of-jesus-faq.htm

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blueagave — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:49:36 GMT

Mike M, Why do you find such a great need to say that what Redbird3 had (very specifically) described ,concerning 'HIS" experience was not what took place? You obviousily were not present...so how could you even have a clue on what actually happened???!!!! i believe his testimony as truth for what would the point be to fabricate it ? An alien on magic mushrooms that just escaped from the coo-coo's nest ??? Come on .

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Jeff Stucker — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:39:29 GMT

So should we check our brains at the door when it comes to the most important questions of all time, specifically the ones that have eternity at stake? To even suggest that -- is the epitome of absurdity. On Easter (today), it is worth repeating that Christianity hinges upon the FACT of the resurrection.

This was known from the earliest moments of Christianity, recorded in the Bible itself, which as you may know, Christians take very seriously:

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1 Corinthians 15:13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 15:14 And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is futile and your faith is empty. 15:15 Also, we are found to be false witnesses about God, because we have testified against God that he raised Christ from the dead, when in reality he did not raise him, if indeed the dead are not raised. 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is useless; you are still in your sins. 15:18 Furthermore, those who have fallen asleep in Christ have also perished. 15:19 For if only in this life we have hope in Christ, we should be pitied more than anyone.

15:20 But now Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

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So, I agree with the Apostle Paul. If the resurrection of Christ is not a fact of history, then I am a pitiful idiot, for that is the centerpiece of my belief system, and what I hinge my purpose in life to -- the few decades of my existence here on this planet, as well as my eternal destiny. Have I studied history, archeology, science, philosophy, literature, sociology, and theology, to confirm whether my beliefs make sense? You better believe I have, and at every step of the way, I have been explicitly ready to walk away from my faith if it could be rationally demonstrated as false. Guess what? I find the evidence is stronger that I even expected. It's true.