How Parasites Can Trick Your Immune System into Health

re: How Parasites Can Trick Your Immune System into Health

wholy1 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:06:16 GMT

recently i went to a large asian market, with many imported foods and produce, fish, meats from other countries. There are also lots of people from other countries living in my area. Int his kind of environment, it IS important to wash hands after coming home from the store. And important in other environments as well. Because the kinds of germs and or parasites that are tramsmitted from foreign people recently broought in to the country, are the ones we do NOT have immunity for, and they do attack with severity that way. So this article is a little off course. We NEED to be careful if we are exposed to factors in the environment that we do not have a good level of immunity to. We DO need to wash our hands when exposed to a potentially chemical- polluted factor. All experts including mercola, say that in order to avoid getting things like the various flus and mrsa, WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN! THAT MEANS, WHEN NEEDED, NOT JUST RANDOMLY AND FOR NO REASON.

re: How Parasites Can Trick Your Immune System into Health

wholy1 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:48:28 GMT

There needs to be a big distinction made between "human dirt" and "nature dirt". Human dirt is really polluted and diseased, but pristine nature dirt is not contaminated yet and so far cleaner in terms of things that are infectious to humans. Outside of the tropics, anyway. If humans have lived there, or if industry or modern practices have contaminated the area, then it is not safe dirt. If it is newly settled area that is out in the boondocks, it is going to b e alot safer and has not had human parasites or pollutants deposited into it. Also, pets and livestock are a prime carrier of parasites and diseases for humans. That's why they should be separate. In cities however, cats and dogs, etc are in too close of contact with their owners, especially the pet waste that has to be disposed of by hand, cleaned up after, etc. This is where lots of americans get their parasites and diseases from, see web. By the way, household pets are not part of nature. Nature makes its own systems of plants and animals, but humans bred and created the whole pet thing.

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wholy1 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:41:09 GMT

that makes a lot of sense, points out the differences between people who live in a clean- air rural environment , versus the dirty and chemical laden air of cities. Asthma is a problem of INDUSTRIALIZED countries, as Mercola said in his part of the article above. Right there is the hint. Industrial air = asthmatic air.

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wholy1 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:11:53 GMT

this is ridiculous. cities are NOT cleaner than rural areas. cities have far more manmade and foreign pollutants and germs than the less exposed rural areas of the country. So this is not very intelligent theorizing. Rural areas also have far higher percentages of oxygen in the air than cities, from all the plants and having less combusion engines and people and cement etc than cities. The air in rural areas is far more pure and usually has more clean moisture in the environment as well, unless you live in a desert. I'm getting sick of this new fad of prescribing parasites for people, when it is not tried or true just yet. People beware. Use your gut instinct. haha, more than one pun intended. Remember these are people experimenting and also looking for ways to get research money....never forget that. So far it is on the fringe, nowhere hear proven as a best technique. There may well be better ones.

As for kids being sent out to play in the dirt, yeah, well, maybe let them play in the grass, where there is plenty of contact with the natural environment. Do we need people telling us to degrade into the 3rd world? Nooooo, I think there are better ways. Moderation in all things, folks. Neither the mud nor the concrete, but a healthy happy somewhere in between, in a naturel that is unspoiled and clean, not dirty 3rd world village disease infested environment made so by stupidity of many generations. Thanks butno thanks, they can keep their own parasites, but I have recently found out, that because of the US stupidity in allowin too many aliens entry, including illegals, we are now being inundated with these 3rd world diseases and parasites. LESS, not MORE, please. Remove the sources that are bringing in these pathogens into the general population here.

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mary27 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:01:34 GMT

Keeping our lifestyle in a healthy way can make our immune system stronger. We must realize that our immune system is the body's defense against infectious organisms and other invaders. It's our main defense against germs and micro-organisms which cause infections that can lead to dreaded disease.

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re: How Parasites Can Trick Your Immune System into Health

RandyCrawford — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:06:22 GMT

From- Randy Crawford 3701 Second St. #10 Coralville, Iowa 52241 --- After years of unalleviated autoimmune disease problems, I discovered that repeated injections of live viral vaccine material helped calm down my immune system via immunodistraction. What has worked best has been MMR, especially when accompanied by varicella vaccines such as Zostavax and Varivax. Also helpful have been yellow fever live attenuated vaccine added to MMR, and addition of live wild vaccine material from safe human throat cultures. Ramping up to daily dosing is easy, safe, and effective, and progress has been best when MMR etc. vaccines are given daily for weeks at a time. As long as the immune system has a real "legitimate" invader to distract it, the white blood cells tend to leave normal cells alone and lose their memory over time for attacking the normal cells. Similarly, Joel Weinstock at Tufts has been using Trichuris suis (pigworm) eggs to ameliorate Crohn's and ulcerative colitis. David Pritchard at Univ. Nottingham has been using other worms to alleviate other autoimmune diseases by immunodistraction also. Eating dirt is less expensive, and good if you can find a safe and reliable source with the proper infective potential. The white blood cells don't particularly care whether a worm or a virus or anything else is doing the distracting-- it just needs to be an invader in the therapeutic window such that it is strong enough to be distracting and weak enough to not damage the patient in the process. Established vaccines right off the shelf like MMR tend to fit into the therapeutic window nicely, and are safer to administer than dirt or worms of unknown potential for side effects. As the FDA in Rockville, MD (CBER/OVRR) told me re MMR vaccines: 'Go ahead and take as much of it as you want. It's perfectly safe, and you can get it in the middle of your forehead for all we care!' As each patient and each pathophysiology is unique, custom tailoring is essential.

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concernedmother — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:42:22 GMT

all of this also reminds me of what my grandmother (who passed away last year at age 86) used to say..whenever there was breakout of the classic 'pnk eye' she would say its a good thing and that we shouldn't go to extreme lengths to protect ourselves as according to her getting a pink eye would serve to protect our eyes...?? interesting isn't it....

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kennyscientist — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:10:06 GMT

Asthma is caused by contaminated fingernails self-inoculating the nose and eyes ~300,000 x . Children in tribal area have low incidence of cancer because because those with weak immune systems do not survive childhood. Cleanliness of the fingernails , nose eyes and gastro tract can eliminate asthma. See Seaton K paper JNMA convention 1998. Infecting with worms is foolish. Look at the bald-head unhealthy looking doctor, who wants to be like that. Antibotic use has caused an over-growth of fungi leading to an epidemic of asthma in USA etc. What is under and around the fingernails controls the respiratory tract and most other areas of the body. Contact Dr seaton for a copy of his research 304 757 5558

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Connected1 — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:33:00 GMT

I believe there are valid points in this article. I also suspect that the mention of organic foods, and reduction of anti-bacterial soaps, have a larger part in this finding.

Isn't it true that in more "sterile" environments there tend to be more chemicals. I don't mean the cleansing products being used to make it more sterile. I'm considering that in more urban environments more pesticides, pollutants, and chemical products are being used and are already present through larger use in those areas, more than individual use.

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breehill — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:07:37 GMT

I have a suggestion for avoiding dangerous germs. I tried this great program with my kids called Germy Wormy Germ Smart. It helped even my 3 year old understand how germs spread and how to NOT spread germs. It was so much fun, and it was amazing how quickly they learned healthier hygiene habits!

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tony126 — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:57:45 GMT

And in the healthcare world, I tend to believe that "Its not a either or choices, but a balancing act". Do you need xxx to be healthy? Yes, but don't rush to consume lots of it. When overdosed, even water harms you. Is xxx, such as bacteria, bad to your health? Yes, but don't rush to avoid them all. When you don't have enough, you can not be healthy as healthy is really an art of living in balance.

The wisdom of "middle way" is quite simple and yet brings light to choices that are at the ends of 2 extremes.

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shanatta — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:59:18 GMT

When your immune system is overactive it might be an idea to give it some distractions like some parasites. Inflammation, like fever serves the purpose to rid the body of something. Somehow the fact that our immune system is going after those worms tells me that they are not all that natural and indeed need to be kept in check. While keeping your immune system entertained with some worms it might be a good idea, in the meantime, to do some detoxing.

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5millers — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:25:42 GMT

Oh yeah, and Jordan Rubin (Garden of Life vitamins) has written that researchers are studying dirt for the microbes that are in there and his probiotics are made including microbes from dirt.

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5millers — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:23:16 GMT

I teach middle school kids and they are constantly asking for the hand sanitizer. Occasionally, I'll send them to wash their hands, though I don't know if they do since the there is the gel in the bathroom also, but I don't even have it in my room. Last year there was a student who would carry his own around and I swear would put it on 3x during my class. These kids are being raised as germophobes. They also can't handle being around any kind of bug and whine every time they are uncomfortable. They also eat horribly and some won't even consider drinking water, just pop. It worries me what they are going to be like as they get older.

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phil stilliard — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:42:03 GMT

I knew that people from Africa get asthma when they come to London, UK. I did a survey of asthma sufferers in UK and found that this is much more prevalent in cities than in rural areas. The government tried to claim it was due to high pollen counts, but that is not found in the results. The results indicated that asthma is at least partly caused by vehicle pollution, carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons.