Deceptive and Ridiculous Application of the Organic Label

re: Deceptive and Ridiculous Application of the Organic Label

curious7 — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:36:24 GMT

The O'Jays said it best, "For The Love Of Money." ConAgra, and the like will do anything. Tell any lie, forward any deception. Go figure.

re: Deceptive and Ridiculous Application of the Organic Label

Dr Phil — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:20:50 GMT

Interesting article and on the surface I would agree that this type of use of 'organic food labeling' devalues our 'belief' of what the standards of 'organic food' should be.

However there are broader issues as well. Wild fish stocks are being depleted all over the world, and the whole sale fishing of anchovie and sardine fish stocks (which are at the lower end of the food chain) will contribute even further to this. Waste products from 'human Industrial processes' and breeding habitat loss of small fish contribute to this even more. There is a moratorium on whale hunting to preserve the animals yet harvesting krill (large wales main food source) for the marine oil mass market, seems a little environmentally unfrendly as well. With a great many of the worlds population dependant on fish as a staple food, in my opinon there needs to be more fish farming, and particularly more fish farming that uses the cleanest and greenest technology available to produce superior quality fish that are as close to organic as possible.

In herbal medicine we call plants that are harvested from the wild, 'wildcrafted herbs'. Maybe a term like this should apply to fish that are caught in the wild.

re: Deceptive and Ridiculous Application of the Organic Label

greenmtman — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:07:58 GMT

greenmtman

I love wild salt water fish,oysters, clams,shrimp,crabs ,etc and will take my chances with mercury poisoning. Lets not forget to live life to it's fullest. To me, that means eating all the different foods. I even like beef tounge heart sweetbreads, You name it I'll try it and probably like it.

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Johnnyp — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:56:07 GMT

I found a farmed salmon that appears to avoid all the pitfalls that Dr. Mercola points out above. It is called Loch Duart Salmon and is raised in Scotland. I was able to find it at a seafood shop in Newport, RI called Anthony's Seafood (if anyone lives in that area). I no longer live there so I cannot find this salmon anymore ( sad). Check it out if you are interested or you can find this fish:

http://www.lochduart.com/

re: Deceptive and Ridiculous Application of the Organic Label

LoriSm — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:55:48 GMT

About 24 years ago my taste buds began to change and I quit eating fish of any kind. Prior to this, the only fish I ate was canned tuna (in water) and frozen fish fillets/sticks anyway. Fish is appalling and repulsive to me in looks, smell, and even taste ("fishy" is what it tastes like!). I have never been able to eat lobster, shrimp, crab, etc., because I can't eat anything that looks like overgrown bugs or aliens. (I have food prejudices like this...)

I am rather thankful that I have these prejudices! Tuna in a can is full of mercury. Most fish is full of mercury and other pollutants. I am not sorry i do not eat this stuff.

I do take cod liver oil (from Norwegian waters~mercury-free) for my omega-3's.

I agree that the USDA wants American's sick, and the best way to achieve this is through food.

Lori

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Therese — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:48:02 GMT

I saw the label "organic" on fish one/-or two years ago, but wasn't that stopped? I can't see it in my stores anymore, only "natural".

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chubby — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:31:19 GMT

QUESTION is it okay to eat 2 or 3 cans of salmon a month that is labled WILD CAUGHT ALASKA SALMON ? and is there any NUTRITIONAL DIFFERENCE in the far more exspensive RED SALMON ? chubby

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Magnolia — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:03:16 GMT

I rather dislike most fish anyway. I simply do not buy it. My vitamin D comes from the sun, even in winter here in the South. I am out of doors a lot.

re: Deceptive and Ridiculous Application of the Organic Label

GreenApple — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:21:36 GMT

Short of growing my own food and raising my own fish , cows and chickens I'm to the point I don't believe anything I read anymore! Every time I turn around there changing the labels.

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seg — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:42:42 GMT

"The fish-farming industry has argued that a U.S. organic standard for farmed fish is needed to help producers compete against foreign producers.Foreign producers are allowed to use labels awarded by their own countries, although not the USDA label".

Pretty soon if things keep on going the way they are we won't have anything that's truly organic ....It all boils down to the almighty dollar and has absolutely nothing to do with the health and well being of the consumers. They would do anything and i mean anything to monopolise the market(s) irregardless of the consequences. I've often said there's a certain amount of evil associated with money and this article once again proves right....
What us as consumers can do is to:
1) Get educated.
2) Inform the masses - pass this on to as many people you know.
3) Don't buy anything that's not 100% in compliance with nature - If we don't buy then there's no demand and they would have to pack it in, that's a very powerful strategy us the consumers have, but most don't realise it.....

As a side note one can think of how much money you need to enjoy a good life for you and your families and don't kill yourself trying to attain more, you'll find yourself being a slave and be missing out on your real purpose in life and you'll be forever miserable.... I am not against having money we all need it to live, but i'm totally against money having ME .

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mmc88121 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:33:20 GMT

How can something be wild yet be raised "organic" it is just wrong.

Mary

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Russ Bianchi — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:20:31 GMT

At USDA (United States Department Of Agri-Business) where "pasteurization" of almonds mean the nuking of them with radiation to destroy any beneficial nutrient content, is is any wonder this standard for organic would be devised to confuse consumers, blur the line between real food and fake food and promote what Big food & Beverage want via their K Street lobbyists?

I fully expect the USDA will be ruling that hemlock should be added to school lunch program (processed, not raw) milk soon, because it's "natural".