Farm Program Pays $1.3 Billion to People Who Don't Farm

re: Farm Program Pays $1.3 Billion to People Who Don't Farm

Health LInks — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:51:50 GMT

I understand that Germany has a program now that allows subsidies only if the farmers then farm organic crops instead of the crops they are paid not to grow. There is a tier system that allows higer pay the more organic the product, so they can turn old soils into organic after time. I wrote all the senators on the agriculture committee and ask them to consider this, they did not respond. How can we get them to listen?

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puppypaws — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:41:06 GMT

AZDC

There is corruption in everything and our federal government taught the class!

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AZDC — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:02:51 GMT

I simply do not understand how people get away with this. I have read news reports that talk about very famous people who buy farmland and do nothing with it just so that they can collect the government handout. It is clear and apparent to anyone who looks at the situation that these people are just capitalizing on a loophole in the system.

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Sandralee — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 04:50:05 GMT

This is nothing new. Farmers have been getting paid not to grow crops for many years. I am 62 years old and grew up on a farm, and they were paying farmers not to grow anything way back when I was a little girl.

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Arden — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:36:26 GMT

I have yet to see where this program has benefited the poorer farmers but has definitely, the wealthy land owners. Back in the 50's they had the soil bank which paid farmers not to grow certain grain crops. Wealthy people bought cheap non productive farmland, collected money for not growing crops on land where no crops had grown before. The money paid for the farms and the wealthy became very wealthy. Thousands complain about what the program did for the wealthy and nothing was ever done, but the program changed to a different kind which continues to benefit the wealthy. The point is will it ever stop and will we let corruption continue? I think Ron Paul is a great man but he alone cannot stop all the corruption which will only get worse in our childrens future. One thing that will allow more corruption is GUN CONTROLL.

If honest, intellegent people are not concerned about stopping corruption, they must be for it. The only question is what can the good people of this country do to STOP it. Just talking and Blogging about is not the answer.

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curious7 — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:28:54 GMT

A legal swindle, a scam, and we the tax payers are all victims. I know of a family that owns a great deal of land which sets idle. The only framing I think is keeping the grass cut, and for this idle land the family collects millions from the state and federal government. This was once a working farm, owned by this family, but the government has shown them how not to work, and collect farm assistance, legally.

Were we to have, God forbid another world war, we would loose. NO farms to speak of, and no industries to build arms. Then again there is always China.

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peggysue777 — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:33:19 GMT

But if any one has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? This comes from 1 John 3:17. Another thought. It took how many years to bring the Berlin Wall down, and now we want to put one up in Mexico? I am sorry, but this is God's earth, not ours!! We are such a selfish people that we cannot even accept our "brothers" And yes Bridestein you are right when you say we came along and stole this land from someone else. And here the whole subject is about the Government paying out to farmers for not farming, but the illegal immigrants are the problem?

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J.C. — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:26:54 GMT

Everyone seems to be missing the REAL PROBLEM , WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE HAVE NO POWER . ( The Vote )

What good does it do ,our vote doesn't REALLY count , as it is the Electorial College that really decides our President .

Once there they do and vote as they want .

WITH THE INTERNET ; IT IS POSSIBLE TO CONTACT ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

The site I use alot is www.congress.org/.../home ...........

there you can acess any elected offical State or Federal ! ! ! ! !

Maybe if enough will contact ,instead of just using blogs, moderated websites and so forth, to whine

then WE MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ! ! ! ! !

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puppypaws — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:22:14 GMT

LORENLSMITH, this statement is 100% correct and if America keeps following the same trade procedures; China will own the US, they own more of this country now than most people realize.

I have been a farmer for over 40 years, you need farm subsudies, but they should only be paid to active farmers not land owners. The active farmer actually spends their personal money for input cost, overhead and performs the labor of growing field and meat crops. Commodity prices are at the highest level ever recorded for the 2008 crop year.

I am stating facts from real life experiences farming, not the opinion of a misguided person making statements on things they have no idea of other than what the media can brain wash them into thinking.

When you go out work yourself to death and spend hundreds of dollars per acre of your personal money so people in this country will have food to eat you will have an honest opinion of what is actually taking place with the American farmer. The American farmer will do everything possible to make his business of feeding people work, he only has so much control, the rest is up to God.

Fact:

The American farmer is not making a profit from farm subsidies, it is only letting him putting food on your table when otherwise he may not be able to. Property owners receiving farm subsidies are generating profit and should not be entitled to any farm program payments.

I pay extremely high insurance premiums, this is my choice; the same as it is your choice for health insurance. I select a higher plan of coverage for the reason of input cost going up dramatically (look at your fuel bill) for everything involved. Someone made the statement, farmers had rather lose a crop so they can reap the benefits of program payments and insurance payments. This is as far from the truth as anything you will ever read or hear. When farmers plant a crop it is like watching a baby grow from embryo stage to an adult, it hurts him to see it suffer.

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BikerTruckerCollegeGrad — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:27:16 GMT

Is this why some Americans work 2 and 3 jobs and still can't get ahead?

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themikeb — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:15:19 GMT

We have been so brain washed.If Illegals are to be pittied...logic follows, we should pity and pay even more for for anyone who breaks the law because they are poor/unmotivated/thugs?

Like the next one to steal your wallet , or mugs you to buy food/crack/car/lotto tickets???Or does anything else to STEAL from YOU ..cause of some perceived/real injustice 300 years ago??????

Commpassion is one thing , enabling millions of thugs is disabling this country.We have lost many hospitals due to the cost that could not be recouped from the legal residents to pay for the illegals...WAKE UP!

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mama bear — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:15:05 GMT

OK--back to Farm Subsidies. Does anyone find it odd that presidential candidates spend so much time in Iowa for about 150,000 votes and we have a HUGE farm subsidy that is growing?

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Truth Wins — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:34:38 GMT

Everyone here not only needs to support Ron Paul by voting, they also need to become delegates, especially in caucus states. We also need to convert people. The MSM has painted him as an unelectable fringe candidate, but once people read about him, they are sold. Ron's supporters don't change based on the story of the day. Get out there and spread the word!

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jams — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:57:57 GMT

Farmers in Australia are struggling to make ends meet often taking on a second job just to survive because we can't complete with the subsidies on grain offered by the American Government. I thought the American farmers must have been struggling, but this puts a whole new light on things.

We are starting to see the same in Australia, big corporations coming in and providing intense grain fed cattle lots and promoting and encouraging genetically modified crops where traditionally livestock was raised on farms with open spaces and seed was resown from the previous years crop.

Farmers were duped by American companies into buying superier genetically modified grain until they realised they couldn't use the same grain again the next year to plant a crop, they had to purchase more grain.

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LORENLSMITHHughes — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:34:28 GMT

The leading newspaper in my California county one year published a list of local "farmers" receiving over $1,000,000 in subsidies. What a flap that caused. One "farmer" took his whole family to winter in an Hawaiin hotel every year. All their expenses away from home are deductible as he now owns ranches in Australia, casino's in Vegas, and commercial banks in Sacramento. He didn't learn how to do this in a government school.