Can Chinese Food Cause Cancer?

re: Can Chinese Food Cause Cancer?

Mad_203 — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:59:40 GMT

I can tell when there is MSG in something I've eaten (which is rare because I choose organic and local whenever possible and am careful which restaurants I patronize). I just have to step on a scale within a few hours of eating and there will be an instant weight gain of about four pounds. The weight increase is due to water retention, so it's gone by the next day, but I hate the idea that I put that poison unknowingly in my body. Thank heaven for detox programs!

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re: Can Chinese Food Cause Cancer?

kitchen wench — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:55:34 GMT

I can't help but wonder if some of the other factors in Chinese restaurants contribute to these cancers, like the fat used for frying, all that white rice, and perhaps not much in the way of vegetables?

I also can't help but want to roll my eyes a bit at the list of other ingredients that contain MSG - after all, the article is about MSG in Chinese food, which especially in mid- and low-end joints is going to be the added processed powder. To implicate the potential MSG content of gelatin, carrageenan, soy sauce, vegetable gums, soy protein, and whey protein (as a by-product of these ingredients' creation) in the same way as the subject of the article concerning cancer seems a bit of a stretch. At the very least, gelatin (as from animal bones used for stocks), carrageenan, and soy sauce have been eaten by various peoples for far longer than just the last century, so again, I'm dubious of putting them under the "MSG=stomach cancer" banner.

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MaxPont — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:40:44 GMT

WHO REFERENCE from 2004? Can anyone point me to where WHO declared MSG unsafe. That is a strong argument if it correct.

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territrek — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:01:07 GMT

My 12 year old son gets HORRIBLE migraines from MSG. Most processed food gives him headaches, esp. Ramen noodles, and canned soups, even the "Healthy Request" by Campbells that SAYS it has no MSG. Trust me, it does. Many things that don't list MSG do affect him, because it is deceptively labeled. It is frustrating. On the other hand, we always ask when we go to a Chinese restarant, and most local places tell me they don't use MSG, and my son does fine. About the only processed food he does ok with is frozen pizza. The only pizza he's ever reacted to is Pizza Hut. He cannot eat at Chick-Fil-A even though they say no MSG. Mexican restaraunts don't present problems. He loves Alfredo noodles, but they are a toss-up - some places are fine, others aren't.

MSG is also in most vaccines. We stopped getting them several years ago, but interestingly as a baby he reacted twice to vaccines.

re: Can Chinese Food Cause Cancer?

bpb — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:15:20 GMT

There isn't one good thing that can be said about MSG... it is a poison pure and simple. Naturally occurring glutamate is bound into foods... it has no more relation to MSG than the sun does to the moon.

My husband is severely sensitive to MSG... took him years of tracking everything he ate and looking at all the ingredients to figure it out. We now cook from scratch, avoiding all additives. Now they are fertilizing foods with MSG... anything for a buck.

An accidental exposure puts him in bed for a day or two with the symptoms of having the flu, or maybe a bad hangover (except he doesn't drink), migraine headache or a case of food poisoning....

Stop and think about that for a minute... The FDA acknowledges that 20 percent of the American Public have bad reactions to MSG. How many people have thought they have had any of the above health issues when what was actually causing their problem was MSG?

Individuals who claim MSG is not a toxin and doesn't affect people are quite simply ignorant. People who ARE affected by MSG and KNOW it are careful as they can be and can still get hammered once in awhile. It's in medicines.

People who know they are sensitive are the canaries in the coal mine.... they are the lucky ones, because they know the damage MSG causes and can avoid it.

While the rest of humanity keeps on gobbling down prepared foods until they manage to give themselves dementia or cancer.

Incidentally, the person who discovered Chinese Restaurant Syndrome was a Korean Doctor, he noticed that he had reactions when he ate in NY Chinese Restaurants... The two Koreas have different food preparation methods, one doesnt use MSG. So the Dr started questioning ill people in the emergency room... he found out they had consumed MSG.

The Japanese discovered MSG, created it artifically and sell tons annually. Stomach cancer is one of the biggest killers in Japan... one huge health issue and it sounds like it comes from MSG doesn't it?

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kathrynrx2 — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:18:02 GMT

I am very good about bringing only organic foods into my home, but I notice that some "ORGANIC" products contain "natural flavor/flavoring", "rice syrup", "carageenan", etc.

Does anyone know if MSG is snuck into, or present in say, Organic products like rice or almond milk, tomatoe sauce, etc.?

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tvf — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:55:17 GMT

I am in basic agreement with this article, but do wonder at a few of the sources listed for MSG. For instance, gelatin is, as I understand it, a protein formed by the hydrolysis of collagen found in connective tissues such as tendon and bone. If one makes stock by prolonged boiling of bones (with a small amount of vinegar added) a lot of gelatin results. Does this have MSG, and if so, where does it come from?

Secondly, what about malted barley? This product, used by us homebrewers as well as commercial brewers, is made by merely sprouting barley grains, then baking them in ovens at various temperatures for different amounts of time. Since nothing is added to the grains, where does the MSG come from?

I wonder if naturally occurring glutamate in these foods is being confused with MSG additives.

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flyingeagle0 — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:48:03 GMT

There is a book that came out years ago, called "In Bad Taste", The MSG Syndrome. Author, George R. Schwartz, M.D. Copywright 1988. This book has most of the information one needs in order to choose wisely the foods they wish to consume.

Today, one really has to be responsible for their own health and welfare. The established systems won't and maybe can not. Be ever vigelant and remember the words of Voltaire, "It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong".

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TidBits — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:14:22 GMT

And just how many of us use to think nothing of tossing in a few Campbell soup cans into the cart at the store? Unless they have the green "Healthy Request" label on the can, that chicken noodle soup has right in the ingredients- Mono sodium glutamate!

I had an e-mail sent to me about a study that was done regarding obesity in America. Of course, they use rats for this study, although the problem first was that rats are not obese by nature, so they fed them MSG to get them obese!!!!

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nanciesweb — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:11:27 GMT

They use in Baby Formula? Why? Have you tasted that stuff? I had babysat one of my foster sister's baby and curiosity had gotten the better of me and I sampled the stuff after I dripped it on my arm. Ick.

If they put MSG to make it taste better, I wonder what it tasted like BEFORE. Nasty stuff.

FYI - I successfully breastfed all 5 of my kids. As a matter of fact, my 5 month old is still exclusively breastfeeding now.

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Ajax — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:00:11 GMT

We should be just as concerned about the toxic ingredients in so-called “natural” supplements. I’m learning more and more about the toxicity of magnesium stearate and stearic acid, and they’re in just about every supplement on the market. Here’s a copy & paste from a web site I found that sells products that don’t contain either of those. I’m not connected to this company, just passing along this information:

Check your vitamin labels. Do they contain Magnesium Stearate or Stearic Acid? Studies by the University of Texas Health Science Center and the East Carolina University School of Medicine reveal that these toxic excipients cause a rapid collapse of T-cell membrane function and cell death; therefore suppressing the immune system. (Immunology, 1990, Jul.)

It is estimated that 90% of the vitamin and mineral products consumed today contain stearates. Stearates are used as binders in tablets and in the processing of gelatin capsules. Consumers often take handfuls of capsules and tablets to get vitamins, minerals and other key nutrients from supplements that contain stearates, and instead, in reality, get a powerful immune suppressive treatment.

For more information on this topic and copies of the above-quoted studies as well as other studies and warnings concerning stearates, send an email to service@qnlabs.com.

"The public must be more aware of nutritional products that initially bring a good vitamin or mineral but hurt you in other ways." (Dr. Eduardo Sanchez, Commissioner - Texas Department of Health, speaking before the Texas Strategic Health Partnership,

University of Texas, Sept. 25, 2003)

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re: Can Chinese Food Cause Cancer?

Sandi$gems — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:57:21 GMT

We became good friends with a Chinese couple who had a local Chinese buffet. It became habitual for us to end up there between the lunch rush and the dinner hour. It was during this time that they were at last able to enjoy their lunch and so could also spend time in conversation with us. They often shared some of their lunch with us to try, and it was so delicious. They would just laugh when we would ask why this couldn't be served on the bar. We took note of the fact they did not eat what they served the public. And as much as we enjoyed their friendship, I had to stop eating there after becoming very ill from some spoiled chicken - the spoilage of which was disguised in the sauce and flavorings. As someone said above, stir fry is very easy to prepare at home, so that's what I do now. We eat out very little these days as invariably, no matter what type of restaurant it is, it is often a race to the toilet afterward.

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gypsygirl — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:40:32 GMT

Hi All

I'm a new-bee

I experience bladder/urethra pain every time I consume anything with MSG - anyone else have this experience?