Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

Panhard — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:44:37 GMT

What of nonalcoholic beverages - ''near beer,'' dealcoholized wines, etc.?

Some nonalcoholic malt beverages are made by extracting the alcohol from beer or wine, which leaves a small amount of ethanol in the beverage. US federal law requires this amount to be under 0.5% (1 proof) to be classified as nonalcoholic and exempt fro federal alcoholic beverage taxes.

At least one manufacturer of nonalcoholic beer advertises on their Web site that the alcohol is drawn off during the brewing process rather than after brewing is completed. This is supposed to remove all alcohol. By doing this the yeast does nor drown itself in its own excrement (for that is what the alcohol is), enhancing the brewing process.

Who knows more about this? Are there wines made in the same way?

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

Beccadog — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:42:34 GMT

So, you say "alcohol is broken down in the body into a chemical called acetaldehyde, which has been shown to cause cancer".

According to excerpts of studies in the Hazardous Substances Data Bank at the National Library of Medicine

http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/ :

Major Uses:

For Acetaldehyde (USEPA/OPP Pesticide Code: 202300) ACTIVE products with label matches. /SRP: Registered for use in the U.S. but approved pesticide uses may change periodically and so federal, state and local authorities must be consulted for currently approved uses./

[U.S. Environmental Protection Agency/Office of Pesticide Program's Chemical Ingredients Database on Acetaldehyde (75-07-0). Available from the Database Query page at www.cdpr.ca.gov/.../epamenu.htm as of May 24, 2001.]**PEER REVIEWED**

SYNTHETIC FLAVOR & ADJUVANT

[Furia, T.E. (ed.). CRC Handbook of Food Additives. 2nd ed. Cleveland: The Chemical Rubber Co., 1972., p. 784]**PEER REVIEWED**

MFR SYNTHETIC RESINS, DYES

[National Research Council. Drinking Water & Health Volume 1. Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1977., p. 686]**PEER REVIEWED**

Mfr paraldehyde, acetic acid, butanol, perfumes, aniline dyes, plastics, synthetic rubber, silvering mirrors, hardening gelatin fibers.

[Budavari, S. (ed.). The Merck Index - An Encyclopedia of Chemicals, Drugs, and Biologicals. Whitehouse Station, NJ: Merck and Co., Inc., 1996., p. 8]**PEER REVIEWED**

SYNTHETIC FLAVOR INGREDIENT USEFUL IN ALL FRUITS FOR LIFT; ESPECIALLY ORANGE, APPLE, AND BUTTER.

[Furia, T.E. (ed.). CRC Handbook of Food Additives. 2nd ed. Volume 2. Boca Raton, Florida: CRC Press, Inc., 1980., p. 256]**PEER REVIEWED**

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re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

Beccadog — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:22:32 GMT

"...Reports have suggested an increased risk of skin and lung cancers in vineyard workers [ref: 42,43] and have also suggested that ingestion of arsenic in wine byproducts may have contributed to this increase [ref: 42]. One case of lung cancer was reported in an individual involved in the production of lead arsenate and calcium arsenate [ref: 44]; multiple skin keratoses and chronic lymphatic leukaemia were reported in one person involved in the production of copper acetoarsenate [ref: 45]."

42. Lüchtrath, H. (1983) The consequences of chronic arsenic poisoning among Moselle wine growers. Pathoanatomical investigations of post-mortem examinations between 1960 and 1977. J. Cancer Res. clin. Oncol., 105, 173-182

43. Thiers, H., Colomb, D., Moulin, G. & Colin, L. (1967) Arsenical skin cancer in vineyards in the Beaujolais (Fr.). Ann. Dermatol., 94, 133-158

44. Horiguchi, S. (1979) A case of lung cancer due to exposure to arsenical compounds in an insecticides factory. (Studies on lead arsenate poisoning. Part 4). Osaka City med. J., 25, 45-51

45. Leyh, F. & Rothlaender, J.P. (1985) Multiple bowenoid keratoses due to arsenic (Ger.). Dermatosen, 33, 99-101

Document where this was found: International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) - Summaries & Evaluations ARSENIC AND ARSENIC COMPOUNDS (Group 1)

www.inchem.org/.../arsenic.html

Arsenic is in the fungicides, and may be in other pesticides used in agriculture, and apparently in the wine. I recall that arsenic is also used to kill fungus in mushrooms, even so called organic mushrooms.

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

Beccadog — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:11:11 GMT

When I'm dehydrated, I feel cold easily. So, drinking enough WATER makes me feel warm.

Sometimes when I'm dehydrated, I'm hot and cold --have alternating spells. Again, drinking enough water normalizes my body.

When I am cold because of the temperature, drinking hot tea preferably decaffeinated, warms me up.

I stopped drinking alcohol after I was of legal age. It wasn't fun any longer. I think it's more fun to drink illegally than legally.

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

12PStreet — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:49:06 GMT

Alcohol may benefit some but not all, probably linked to your metabolic/nutritional type.

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curious7 — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:01:58 GMT

I have read many accounts of people being drunk, and dying from exposure because they could not judge the temprature of their enviroment.

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KirstenK — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:29:01 GMT

If you think you are an alcoholic I wouldn't worry about trying to beat the addiction on your own using EFT, get yourself to an AA meeting, get your head straight then use EFT to find core issues. AA works and shouldn't be forgotten.

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

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re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

trese — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:05:55 GMT

What about the historical account of the man who was on the Titanic and drank large excesses of whisky during the sinking and ended up living? In the book on the Titanic that I read, people saw him swimming around in the freezing water after the ship had sank and he ended up surviving. They attributed it to the fact that the alcohol kept his blood from freezing.

Or, is this something completely different than alcohol keeping your body warm?

Also we have a friend who is 90 and he says he drinks a "buttered rum" every afternoon. He said that was what his dad did during his life and he lived to be 95. Our friend's wife is 89 and she has a glass of wine a day. They are both in incredible health and still go out dancing too!

And, it says in the Bible that a little wine is good for the stomach. :)

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

shaneperrone — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:33:08 GMT

Well one of the things that was true from health class i suppose :)

Although the teacher was wrong in saying wine in moderation was good for you, seems to me like an excuse to continue the drinking rather than for health.

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ADB_203 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:20:37 GMT

The old man in Italy who died recently at about 107 years of age attributed his longevity to drinking a glass or two of red wine daily.

My friend, Dr. Kruisheer, 89, Cardiologist, Bilthoven, Holland, former doctor with US Army (dual nationality) told me 25 years ago to drink two drinks (wine, beer or spirits) a day and I'd never have placque in and around my heart. Is that just the Dutch position? Or what ? I've faithfully tried to follow his suggestion. I'm 70. Last week my cholesterol was 135. Fasting blood sugar 90. And, I feel terriffic and still have two glasses of Lambrusco, 8%, every day.

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ADB_203 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:15:42 GMT

If red wine is all that bad for us why did the late Dr. Atkins claim in his book that people who drink two or three glasses of wine a day live longer ?

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

The Herb Doc — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:51:21 GMT

Back in my days as a musician playing on the road we had a job in Rock Springs Wyoming. It was 40 below that night! At the hotel we could spit off the second floor and it would bounce off the parking lot. At about 4:00 AM the drummer and I saw someone grab a bottle of Jack Daniels 90 proof they had stashed in the snow and take a big swig. He fell to the ground convulsing! By the time we could get to him he was dead! The strong alcohol was like antifreeze and froze something in his vital function I guess.

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

NieeMA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:50:18 GMT

Healthy New Year

I personally feel that the results of the body going thru all it does when one drinks, is its way of getting rid of the poison we have just put in it.

A little poison to a healthy person can be handled...a lot of poison to a person that is not healthy will do damage beyond what we can imagine..

Done enough, over time, that healthy person will soon suffer the consequences.
Why put poison in anyway?

NieeMA

re: Does Drinking Really Make You Warmer?

seg — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:49:34 GMT

This article is quite true and the science behind this is not new, i knew this a very long time ago. However if you're coming FROM the cold to a warm house or so and have a nice shot of scotch,cognac or sake, in my view it helps to give you an initial boost of warmth that won't dissipate and lower your core temp as if you were outdoors in the cold, in other words you can have a shot (your choice don't go overboard) coming from the cold but i won't recommend any alcohol GOING OUT into the cold ........

CHEERS !!!!!!!!!!