Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

re: Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

Yoyo35 — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:31:40 GMT

Fact….UVA and UVB rays cause Skin Cancer. Melanoma is the deadliest form of skin cancer. One person dies every hour from Melanoma, a cancer that is directly related to over exposure of UVA and UVB rays. Review research from M D Anderson Cancer Center, the world-renowned Cancer Research Center.

All ethnic groups are at risk of developing skin cancer but more so in fair-skinned people! The opinion that tanning is healthy is completely fictitious. Our skin is the largest organ, if this is subjected to harmful UV radiation on a regular basis skin cancer may be the result. UV exposure has a cummulative effect and even small amounts daily can increse your risk of developing skin cancer. I am not a great supporter of artifical products to provide the necessary levels of vitamins and minerals and recommend a balanced diet with organic fruits and vegetables & include fish/fish oils.

We lost our son to skin cancer (Melanoma) and he was not one who regularly exposed his skin to the sun. However he had enough exposure to develop Melanoma. Ask any Dermatologist if there is such a thing as a safe tan. Google Melanoma and find out the facts.

If you are worried about Vitamin D deficiency then consider adding fish, eggs, and meat to your diet!

According to Polar Bear, there are euphoric feelings from sun exposure, chocolate and wine can do the same thing yet they are not necessarily good for you.

Try exercise you can get the same feeling of well-being and do something good for your bodyJ

re: Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

Yoyo35 — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:54:25 GMT

UVA and UVB rays cause Skin Cancer and the continual exposure to the sun's damaging rays are residual... meaning that the accumulated exposure causes effects in the body over time. Melanoma is the deadliest form of skin cancer. One person dies every hour from Melanoma, a Cancer that is directly related to exposure to UVA and UVB rays. Our culture believes a tan is healthy and that could not be further from the truth! It is the body's defense against the damaging rays designed to move Melanin closer to the surface of the skin to prevent further damage. My 20-yr old son died from Melanoma Skin Cancer and this is a horrible way to loose your life for the sake of a tan! Ask any Dermatologist if there is any thing as a safe tan? Google Melanoma and find out the facts. Hope this helps all those sun worshippers think twice about this deadly practice.

re: Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

jimmandelin — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:29:32 GMT

I have a question of anyone. Is suntan beds of any use as I live in the north and on the coast where it rains all winter? Thank you in advance for your comments.

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Rose1068 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:19:51 GMT

I just read the aticle and I'm so confused. I had my vitamin levels checked and my Dr. told me that I was very low on Vit. D. It was 20, so he started me on supplements of 50,000IU once a week. I've been taking them for about 2 months. I tried to look at the prescription bottle to see if it's D2 or D3. It didn't say, so I called the pharmacy and they said it's D2. The pharmacist said that's all they ever prescribe is D2 never D3. Should I stop taking this now? Is this going to cause me to develop a disease like cancer or MS? I'm kinda freaking out right now. Why would my Dr. give me the D2 synthetic instead of the D3 natural supplement? Of course, I'm going to ask him at my next appt. but any advice anyone has or comments would really be appreciated.

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DrBB — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:37:41 GMT

I wish everyone would stop saying that Vit D. is not found in milk. It is, when the mother who is making it is vitamin D sufficient. Otherwise, her milk is as deficient as she is. Let's get babies what they need, get mothers' levels up anyway we can.

Let's also remember that we can't make vitamin D from sunshine this far north in the winter, not because it is cloudy and dreary, but because the sun is too far down in the horizon for the UV B to penetrate the atmosphere. We'll be able to make it from sunshine soon!!!!!

re: Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

ABCDEF_203 — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:56:31 GMT

Mercola.com says:

"I’m not certain what type of vitamin D was studied in the report above, however the abstract mentions the vitamin D that’s added to milk and cereals. Well, the vitamin D that’s added to milk is synthetic vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol) and is not something that you should be taking anyway"

D3 in particular...

In the article it explains that the focus is on Vit D METABOLITES, not the vitamin by itself.

And as someone pointed out, milk has D3 added (at least the common brands I use).

re: Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

Trevor2522 — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:38:53 GMT

A diet rich in raw eggs, fish or meat will give plenty of vitamin D. Why this obsession with sunlight?

How do you think the Eskimoes/Inuit survive dark winters? Plenty of vitamin-D rich raw fish and seal meat!

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VeganPeace — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:11:10 GMT

Is there a vegan D3 supplement besides sun?

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aemit — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:49:58 GMT

Well! For those who think it is impossible to take suntan in winter when it's cold outside, let me share my latest discovery with you! In my post to a previous sun-related article I mentioned that although I live in Tokyo (there is winter here too and it is cold! I checked and it was 5 C at 12 noon where I live - sorry I don't know how much that is in F). So anyway, I take suntan all year long, about 1 hour if the weather is nice, meaning that if there is a clear blue sky. I used to go down behind my apartment buiding and just by the south wall of the building it is nice protected so I used to do my tanning there in a bikini. It was fine mostly in winter too, however when the weather was windy, of course even that spot was cold because of the icy wind. So then, after having lived in this particular apartment for over 4 years, this winter I realised that I can take suntan inside my living room, instead of going down, if I open the balcony door and lie on the carpet, the sunshine falls right there so it is just WONDERFUL! Even if it's windy outside. Like today, I did my usual one-hour tanning in my living room while it was really freezing outside and a really strong wind and what is more, I can do it naked! Let me just say that my apartment is located in such a way that the only way anyone could see me while lying on the carpet is from an airplane! So, this is how I do my tanning these days and it is the best thing in the world! No vitamin D will do the same magic that's for sure and I never took any so far.

Ok so why I'm writing this is because I think a lot of people do not realise that they do have a way to take suntan, meanwhile the chance is there. I've been living in this apartment for years and just realised it a short while ago. Of course the door must be open, no glass window or mosquito net. Well, it is just short time so I guess that can be managed and if any flies happen to come in, at least there is some amusement for my two cats :)

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Larry in No Idaho — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:18:58 GMT

Hi,

This is my first post on VV, but I have been reading it for a long time. I want to primarily respond to the question from Ontario - KIM's DEN. I know this is anecdotal but it was a huge part of my family's experience with health.

My Dad had Rheumatoid arthritis longer than I knew him. Got it 6 years before I was born. He was a guinea pig for all that came along. He consumed about 3 cubic yards of aspirin (up to 24 a day - 16 for years) and a lot of steroidal anti-inflammatories. Doctors were surprised his stomach could handle that much, but, alas, coated aspirin had to finally be used (Ecotrin I think).

In 6 years of hard lovingkindness effort, God Almighty, my mother, he, and a Godly osteopath got him back from being bedridden. He was a journeyman tool and die maker for many years and doctors were surprised he could manipulate micrometers, etc., with the severe deformity of his hands. I say all that to say this: X-rays showed, to even an untrained eye, rebuilt, hard bone on top of the saw-tooth prior small (no) joint space in his hip joints. Dad could walk around for sometimes 12 hours, climb ladders - a lot better than being bedridden. Now, he still had about half the deformity in his hands - he was NOT an Olympic athlete, but the change was HUGE!

One thing he did was to sit (and work some) outside in the sun in the winter for long times in a greenhouse my brother and I built for him in Southern New Jersey. It was made, intentionally, out of DuPontTedlar PVF film - because it is one of the few substanes that are UV transparent. (Tech data easily available from DuPont - I don't know specifically about UVA and UVB).

We did a lot of things about diet - raw goat milk - a lot of juices, colonics some, lots of raw foods, slow weaning off medications - but it was really a slow miracle. Dad died much later than he expected - almost 78. He always thought he would die young from the large medications.

Sorry for the long post. God Bless!

re: Why Vitamin D Supplements Are NOT the Same as Sunlight

MacGyver — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:46:40 GMT

Well there, then... We can all throw away our vitamin D capsules. Mr. Marshall has determined that our chronically low vitamin D status is due to disease processes and we'd better not be monkeying around with it. Never mind the 1000's of cases where supplemental vitamin D has led to rapid recovery. Must have been due to something else. I'm relieved to know that. Aren't you?

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John316 — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:10:50 GMT

This study doesn't ring true to me. I don't believe D3 is immuno-suppressive, but I have read that it is immuno-regulative which is quite different. The Vitamin D Council suggests an adult consume 4,000 i.u. per day as toxicity levels aren't reached until prolonged use of 10 times that amount. I live in a northern Canadian city and you cannot make vitamin D from sunlight except during the midday sun in the summer. I have never had my D levels checked, but I am not concerned about it.

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saynotoquacks — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:53:45 GMT

The last time I checked, the vitamin D added to milk is in fact D3, not D2. I'm not sure where Dr. Mercola got the idea that D2 is used. Otherwise, I completely agree that sunlight (or sunlamp-light) is best. Nature gives us everything we need to be happy and healthy! If it's not natural, it's probably harmful. Synthetic vitamins can produce tolerance and withdrawal symptoms, just like all drugs. In fact, they are drugs.

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GeeMa — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:37:08 GMT

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