Weston A. Price Foundation to FDA: Soy is No Health Food

re: Weston A. Price Foundation to FDA: Soy is No Health Food

cocorico — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:02:03 GMT

about a month ago I contacted sanitarium who said that soya milk was no good for baby because it had a lack of iron and that since iron is added in formula it is ok...........

Now a glass of non ge soya milk a day, do you think it would hurt?

re: Weston A. Price Foundation to FDA: Soy is No Health Food

Cathyblj — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:34:10 GMT

It blows my mind that they sell edamame at the store for $6 for a little pkg and people think they are buying some super health food. It doesn't contain the carcinogens from being processed, but it still contains the natural toxins. But "All Natural" means it must be good for you, right? The soy industry has definitely pulled a fast one. I can't prove that tofu and soy milk caused my hypothyroidism, as I didn't consume all that much - but it surely didn't make me healthier.

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Carol Morrisey — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:08:15 GMT

For a historical reference point on meat-eating, check out Genesis chapter 9. After the flood, God told Noah that now animals would be food for mankind. Later, Israelite dietary laws included certain meats in the recommended list--beef, mutton, certain birds, etc. Of course those animals were grass-fed, and pesticides and artificial fertilizers didn't exist yet.

Jesus and other New Testament people clearly also ate meat. Vegetarianism cannot be supported by the Bible.

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Hathorhetep — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:22:43 GMT

I had a tofu shop for 4 years, ate tofu 4 -8 meals a weeks a week, had tempeh 2 - 6 meals a week, and have consumed soymilk for 30 years. When we were making our own products from organic soybeans, (org. seeds, beans, & grains with the beans for tempeh) We had no bad health reactions (it was fresh, no additives), and used the okara as food for our dogs and ourselves, while the whey was a good organic soap/shampoo. Portion size was small compared to being in a restaurant in the big city. Miso soup with fresh tofu, fish, and veggies- yum!

We were primarily vegetarian, but had fish or shrimp several times a year. When I knew I was pregnant I immediately increased the amount of eggs, goat milk/cheese, and fish in my diet.

Since I began drinking COMMERCIAL soymilk (Edensoy, WestSoy, Vitasoy, Pearl) I have had a big problem dropping the 30 lbs. i gained after having my son 20 years ago! Yes, I was bad and ate 'standardized' foods back then and what a big mistake that was! We were ostracized and chided about our 'dangerous vegetarian/pescatorian' diet. He has eaten poultry since kindergarten and red meat occasionally since middle school. He is lean and strong today. Taking a cue from the Metabolic Type suggestions, I'm raising my protein levels, reducing starch carbs, and have begun to lose weight. If you gain 2 -5 lbs. a year, in a few years it becomes scary to look in the mirror or try to fit into your clothes!

I am weaning myself off the commercial soymilk and transitioning to goat milk &/or organic 1/2 & 1/2 for coffee. I am allergic to cow milk products, but after 1 1/2 years of probiotics, I can have small amounts of Dairy again. I still have soy in small amounts if it is Fresh & Organic. There is no place I know of on the South Side that has raw milk for me to buy and try. Greek yogurt (Fage & others) have 3 - 6 types of probiotic bacteria in them - very digestible!

The use of soy in animal feed is something to take note of.

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HeatherM — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:44:18 GMT

I tried to revisit the Weston Price website recently & what I got was rubbish, so I was concerned that it no longer existed as it originally did.. That's because I looked up www.westonprice.com I don't know why this one exists. It only lists click on references to different diets, including Jenny Craig, & different health product sources with no connection to Dr. Weston A Price's diet research & guidelines. It's so important that people wanting to find out about Dr. Weston A Price, go to www.westonaprice.com I wanted to bring this to the attention of all Vital Voters, so we can quote the correct web site address when spreading the word.

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Debbren — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:16:22 GMT

Any one know much about Haelan 925 fermented soy drink? My mother with Lung Ca is using this and it seems to be helping to keep some of her symptoms from Chemo at a minimum so far. Very little neuropathy...in her fingers and toes...

Any personal info would be really appreciated...

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Socorrokpa — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:47:07 GMT

I just recently heard of fermented soy powder for use as a protein powder. Although it's fermented, I'm wondering if it's actually healthy. Does anyone know anything about this?

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rdalchemy — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:27:52 GMT

Good old Weston Price. A lot of good info but......it's now known meat causes cancer, as does dairy. soy is like most foods—good for some, not for others. what a surprise. since you all like scientific information here's some.

Soybeans affect 123 genes involved in prostate cancer. gene p53--function: kills mutant cells. a soy constituent called lunasin increases 123 different genes in prostate cells that suppress tumor growth, initiate the the repair of damaged DNA and promote apoptosis, the programmed suicide of damaged cells before they begin to multiply.

research by Raymond Rodriguez, head of the Center of Excellence in Nutritional Genomics at the University of California, Davis

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rdalchemy — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:55:12 GMT

Wow! I'm sure they issue a statement soon—right after they issue the one on milk and meat causing cancer. Oh, I forgot only non-organic, non-grass fed meat and dairy. you know—the kind eaten by 99.9999999999999999 percent of the worlds population*

*everyone except DR.Mercolas patients

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YoungGunner1989 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:47:28 GMT

Does the fermentation do anything regarding the isoflavones and hormonal effects?

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Eevee — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:21:03 GMT

I am new to this website and just joined up. I am totally shocked at what I am learning.

I stay away from GM foods and try to buy organic wherever possible, I had no idea that unfermentaed soy or too much soy was bad for you. Will keep reading with interest.

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drbobsmate — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:20:10 GMT

Im 62, vegetarian and have been eating Tofu almost daily for 35years. To date I have no major or minor illnesses, and expect to enter retirement with the same health. For many years I made my own tofu and 'split' the soy milk with boiling sea water, however, the 'almost fresh' variety sold in my local asian store seems ok. I suppose the best study would be to find more examples like myself which would pre-empt the best scientific research. Yes, you could argue that because of my persona I would have the same result should I have chosen a non-tofu vegetarian lifestyle...however, I very much doubt it!

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Ien in the Kootenays — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:59:17 GMT

We have such a horrid tendency to dogma, and to wild swings in public opinion from one extreme to the next. One moment soy is all good, the next moment it is all bad unless fermented.

I happen to love tofu, and am lucky to have access to a locally produced product made fresh from

organic, non-GMO beans. We eat a one pound block a week, sometimes 2. I feel great on it.

We also eat it mixed with warming spices, like garlic, ginger and peppers, to balance the excessively

cool nature of tofu.

As for the meat question: my favorite recipe for soup starts with: "Sharpen the Axe". Yes, I am a

chicken killer. They enjoy a brief but pleasant life, a merciful quick death, and I know what has

gone into them.

After about a decade of mainly chicken and fish I have lately found myself craving red meat.

As someone else said, Life feeds on Life. No feedlot beef, just small amounts of organic buffalo

now and then.

Some nice balanced articles on the whole vegan topic can be found at the website of Chet Day:

http://chetday.com Look for "When Halleluja becomes "what happened?"

The gist of it is that people often feel wonderful when they stop eating junk and turn to a clean

plant-based diet, but after a few years the deficiencies start showing. Lacto-ovo can work, vegan

cannot.

Another nice article on the website of Dr. Ben Kim, "Don't let ideology interfere with what works".

The bottom line is always: Listen to the Doctor within! How does it feel?

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Melanik — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:23:20 GMT

Thanks to the information and my interest to the truth. I live in Indonesia and we can find tempeh in abundance with price per 350 grams of 30 cents. I find it a good protein source when I want to reduce animal protein. The only grain product I have currently beside tempeh is fermented brown rice and oatmeal. Though I only take the grain in a very limited amount, less than 50 grams per day. At 50, I maintain a waist/ hip proportion of slightly below 0.8 and have not taken any doctor's medicine for 3 years. A hard journey for me to leave whole wheat bread: before it was my favorite.

Here doctors recommend AIDS patients to have tempeh juice to improve their immune system.

Melani

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lanadeenlynch — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:49:09 GMT

Hello,

Dr. Mercola, If you could live in my body for one day after I consume less than .01 gram of soy in any form, you would beg for mercy and lay down thinking you were about to die. After more than 15 years of living hell, and 12 near death experiences from eating some food with hidden soy, I can only tell you that soy is not healthy for any human body in any form what-so-ever.

I hear of people of all ages dropping over dead for no real apparent reason as a result of consuming hidden soy in their foods.

Want the answer to the poor bee's problem? Years ago they avoided soy like crazy! With the genetically altered soy plant, so the bitter smell, taste, and apparent energy of the plant are now supposedly tamed, the healthy bees enjoy the unrecognizable poison of the pollinating of this plant, suffer irreversible damage to their own nervous system, and fly away to die.

I have tried to assist other persons with psoriasis, red cheeks that do not heal, blistering and severe itching of the skin, etc. to get soy totally out of their diets. And, lo and behold, no more skin disease, better mental health, functioning bowels, and healthy bodies.

I hope this helps someone.

Respectfully, Lana