More Dairies Go Raw as Consumers Learn the Benefits of Unpasteurized Milk

re: More Dairies Go Raw as Consumers Learn the Benefits of Unpasteurized Milk

momoflotsakids — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:58:04 GMT

I actually have one question. I am sorry if this sounds like a silly one. We are paying almost $15 per gallon for raw organic milk. The cost is so high that I can't buy ROM for my family of 11, (9 children) every week.

This idea of mine is to combine 1 gallon of ROM and 1 gallon of pasturized milk might help stretch my dollar and keep the milk supply for my family more frequent.

My common sense is telling me that the enzymes and good bacteria from ROM will mix with the pastuized milk. Would this be something that I could do?

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deedge — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:07:31 GMT

I think that the raw milk has some definite POTENTIAL benefits. But, there are definate risks involved as well. Everyone has mentioned that grass-fed cows that are well treated rarely get sick, or sick enough to warrant treatment. However, the real reason that pasteurization was started was because dairies were NOT treating the cows properly. This led to the dairies selling white poison that was the main source of food for many children. Pasteurization is a band-aid on the poor farming practices of dairies.

I know that government oversight is often thought of as a bad thing (and it often turns bad quickly), but honestly, how many of you have any idea of how a cow needs to be treated? I visited the local cow-share dairy that provides raw milk here. The cows looked ok to me, but what do I really know about it? Also, I know nothing about the proper cleanliness practices for gathering and transporting the milk.

I think it is the DUTY of the government to allow us to purchase and consume raw milk, and it is a moral and legal duty of the government to provide me with an expert that can verify that the farmer is doing what is best for the animal. We need CERTIFIED raw milk. Otherwise, a farmer could treat the animal poorly and just not pasteurize the milk. Since people tend to be lazy and make money whenever they can, there needs to be a way to ensure that the animals are treated ethically and in a manner that ensures healthy milk from a healthy animal.

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wittlicher49 — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:44:33 GMT

My grandson has been drinking organic Milk since he was born. He will be 6 in May. 2 years ago we was diagnosed with high end asberger syndrome. He was flapping his hands at a fast pace.

After reading about organic milk verses raw milk on Dr. Mercola's website we switched to raw milk. Yes we had the same fears, are we going to catch some" huff amd mouth desease" from drinking raw milk. well it has been 1 1/2 years since we switched. My grandson has not been flapping his hands for a long time. After reading the article on milk, maybe his symptoms disappeared because of the raw milk. WOW

I grew up on raw milk in Germany and I am still alive and well and very healthy.

Have a great day

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KissyFace — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:59:31 GMT

AZHiker... Can you tell me where you get your raw milk?

I have called so many dairies and none of them sell raw milk.

I am in the Phoenix area... Thanks so much!

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lawrenca333 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:14:35 GMT

It's great to hear that raw milk is finally gaining recognition as a healthy food once again and is becoming more readily available. I've only recently began drinking raw milk and consuming raw dairy products and there is simply no comparison. To use a crude analogy, the difference between conventional milk and raw milk is like looking at a postcard of the Eiffel Tower, and actually being there. At the same time, there is a fear in me that as the raw milk movement gains momentum, and people start realizing that profits can be made, there will undoubtedly be spawned those unscrupulous individuals who try to take advantage of the situation. This can come in the form of some farmers cutting corners, to larger governmental bodies and corporations actively resorting to sabotage. I certainly would not put anything past companies like Monsanto and the FDA to do something dastardly and injurious simply to protect their damnable bottom line.

As raw milk consumers, it is imperative that we remain vigilant in our demands for quality, and raw milk producers continue to be honorable and proud of the life that their nurturing product gives, for in the end, no matter what governmental laws may be created, enforced, or broken, no agency can escape that immutable law of nature; you reap what you sow.

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jovan — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:20:52 GMT

The internationally respected Dr Michael Colgan of the Colgan Institute has stated for many years that the problem with cows milk is that the majority of dairy cows (over 70% in the US) contain a protein in their milk called 'beta-casein A1', there is an extremely high correlation (up to 96%) between consuming A1 milk and insulin dependant diabettes, irrespective if its 'raw milk' or otherwise. Other studies now link A1 cows milk to cardiovascular disease, bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia, arthritis, psoriasis and lupus. A New Zealand study found that A1 milk produces a toxic bioactive peptide called 'beta-casmorphin 7' which causes immunosuppression. The healthy 'beta-casein A2' milk doesn't produce this toxin. In countries where A2 milk is consumed the incidence of diabettes and the above mentioned diseases is very low. A2 milk is available in some areas but as usual the FDA and the A1 producing dairies with the help of politicians have banned the manufacturers from calling A2 a healthier milk. As Dr Colgan states the only way to remove A1 is to test all dairy cattle and breed out those with A1, a politically unpopular idea due to the enormous costs involved. And don't forget that the other dairy products made from A1 milk: butter, cheeses, infant formulas etc still contain A1. So don't be conned that all raw milk is safer!

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TrainRex56 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:36:22 GMT

I am one of 7 children. Raised on raw milk. We had fresh butter that we churned ourselves. We had a Naturpath doctor. I cannot recall ever having any major health issues as a child. As an adult, I now suffer from Type 2 Diabetes, and allergies. The problem in IDAHO is that ND's are NOT allowed to practice. (Evidently a result of the AMA's influnce). And obtaining RAW milk, is hard at best to come by. I remember as a child, going with my mother to get milk from a local farm for us and several of our neighbors. The reason that we went then was because of the big price difference. (25 cents gallon, compared to over $1 back in the early 60's). And to think that my mother was right all along, even if she didn't have a PHD. I wish BIG Government would STOP telling us what is "GOOD" for us and STOP filling their wallets because of "their" decisions.

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aemit — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:07:56 GMT

I guess I'm a little late here but hopefully some of you still reading this topic?

What I want to know is how about milk that has been sterilised at 66 C for 30 minutes? I live in Japan and cannot get any raw milk here or at least don't know where to get any and the two alternatives are this version and the other one at 75 C for 15 minutes, I figured that the lower temperature sterilization was better and keep buying that and indeed this milk tastes so much better than the ordinary version (pasteurized at 130 C for 2 sec). I was wondering about the quality of this particular low-temperature sterilized one, if anyone has any idea. Thanks.

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Debbie48 — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:08:27 GMT

I also, grew up on raw milk, but it's not available here. I sure miss it. I have a friend who was fed raw milk as a baby, because her parents couldn't afford formula, her older siblings got formula. Anyway, she was the only one that didn't catch any childhood diseases, such as chicken pox, mumps, and measles. Her dr. contributed it to raw milk.

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mmadden — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:36:27 GMT

I agree that raw milk tastes great. I grew up on raw milk. BUT, I remember when my grandfather, who years ago had a herd of cattle that were grass and grain fed, suffered with Undelin Fever, I think that was the spelling, which I believe came from the cow's milk. This makes me afraid to consume raw milk. Perhaps there is no danger now?

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drwill_3 — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:20:50 GMT

I know the discussion is on the benefits of raw milk however I didn't see or read any other comments on the benefits of Soy, Rice, or Almond milk products. Personally I use to suffer with canker sores for years. I thought that it came from my body being in an acidic state when I ate things like oranges, limes, lemons, etc. I was right....just not about the fruits. My body was in an acidic state....from drinking dairy. Realize when your body is in an acidic state disease processes begin to happen (arthritis, inflammatory bowel, acid reflux, autism, etc.). This is when certain bacteria thrive as well. When I eliminated dairy from my diet, my canker sores went away. One other side note....I also tripled my daily intake of fish oil. Remember again, we're omega-6'd to death in the US through our diets. What do all those omega 6's do......inflammation (acidic state). Look to the gut and keep your nervous systems functioning at 100% for health.

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Hathorhetep — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:11:28 GMT

Where in Illinois can we legally get raw milk? Cow, goat, sheep, yak...??? How about raw milk kefir?

Some Greek yogurts are made from raw milk - they help me very much, and are the only cow dairy items

that don't produce phlegmy throat and runny nose in me. or zits on my face, even without sugar in the 'mix'.

My son's zits cleared up when we switched to Oberweiss and occasionally organic milk. The organic milk

from California does not taste or smell as good as Oberweiss milk, but Oberweiss Dairy is close to Chicago,

which makes it much fresher than California milk. The glass bottle makes a huge difference, too.

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Horsea — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:04:59 GMT

I think that lack of homogenization is even more critical than lack of pasteurization. If you are insistent on drinking just plain milk, maybe un-heated is the way to go. But perfectly good yogurt can be made, and, indeed, must be made, from pasteurized milk.

am not convinced that plain, un-cultured/un-fermented milk straight from Bossy is necessary for us. Please convince me; I am willing to listen. Maybe I am just saying this because I have always hated plain milk. I grew up on a farm, and the milk was fresh, but we never, ever drank plain milk in my family, and when I tried, I could not tolerate it. My mother always fermented it in one way or another.

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Leee-la — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:23:48 GMT

My DIL is a veterenarian, grew up on a farm, milked cows. she is just short of a PHD in microbiology. She said *** get on the udders, it would be difficult to get milk without some e-coli. Even if you move the pail, the cows often kick and some manure etc gets into the bucket. She also said TB is carried in the milk and salmonella. Even with healthy cows eating grass. Healthy bacteria????? She said, milk should not have any bacteria, mom's milk has no bacteria. On the farm, the milk was drunk the same day, no refrigeration years ago. I drink soy milk, but I would not go near raw milk.

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Sray — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:40:23 GMT

At my local farmers market here in Hollywood, California (Ivar and Vine) Sunday morning, I like to buy raw goat cheese. But, I have to tell the lady "it is for my dog, of course, it is for my dog, yes". No, I don't have a dog .

Wonder how long it will take for the politicians to get the word. Change the laws!

Down here all my friends agree, driving north on highway 5 towards San Francisco, has a certain stretch, going past a dairy with feed lot cows, that smells really- horribly - horrible. Even air conditioning won't get all the smell. Poor cows, hundreds of them huddled in mud, standing in their own waste - and we drink their milk. Betcha the owners or managers of the farm live in a nice clean house, and drink raw organic milk.

Ghandi: "The greatness of a nation may be judged by how their animals are treated."