They're Taking The Joy Out Of Soy

re: They're Taking The Joy Out Of Soy

soya caused my daughter thyroid problems — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:05:59 GMT

belive me soya most definately is NOT the healthy wonder food is said to be. yes i admit a small amount may well be ok, but if your a vegan and useing it to substitute meat and dairy then you are definately at risk , which ive seem with my own eyes.

if you want to gain massive amounts of weight but be hardly eating, get stretch marks, spots, bloat, have no energy and sleep most of the day, be unable to concentrate, have hot flushes, excess saliva, keep peeing, basically have most of the symptoms of the menopause, pregnancy, cushings syndrome, graves, addisons, diabetes and some other endocrine problems then this is the stuff you can guarantee to cause it.

re: They're Taking The Joy Out Of Soy

Farmlady — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:53:45 GMT

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I never suspected the soy till I read Sally Fallon's material. I believed in it so much, It couldn't possibly be that. The litereature all says.......... But when faced with the possibility that it was the problem, I stopped my experiment and the goats recovered. Not the offspring, who were so malformed they all went to the auction. They had the appearance of rickets. Twisted legs, thin. My mature does had miscarriage problems with soy. And one of my bucks never produced one baby for me in that two years.

They had been given say at approximately a cup per head per day. I never was able to acheive the great growth it was supposed to promote. If anything, the offspring were stunted.

My rabbits were permanantly affected. The adults became infertile and died of old age without ever producing any more young for me after the two years.

The chickens were least affected. I only had one hen start crowing, and one hen died of an egg stuck in her abdominal cavity. Chickens are the most grain freindly of the animals I tried this on. Chickens are natural grain eaters. Goats are ruminants (herb eaters, forbes, greens, roughage) and only can take grain in small amounts (by the cupful) or they will get acidosis and may die of diarrhea, (clostridium). Rabbits are also like goats, need roughage and greens. Grain is only a treat for them.

Grains, like soy, have phytic acid in them. Phytic acid is the chemical that prevents the grain from sprouting under dry conditions. It is best split by soaking the grains. This is why we should soak rice and beans before we cook them and throw away the water. Phytic acid is very high in soy. Phytic acid binds to the minerals init. So thus the rickets mimicry in the goats. But there are also tripsin inhibitors in soy, and these block one's tripsin from doing it's job of breaking down dietary proteins. So the beautiful protein in soy is bound up and unavailable. Birds have enzymes that can split things that are toxic to us.

re: They're Taking The Joy Out Of Soy

Farmlady — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:24 GMT

I am amazed Dr. Mercola has no comment on this article. Well, we all know we can trust the FDA don't we? For anyone unfamiliar with Weston Price, please read his research which occurred before Sally Fallon was ever born. The book is availbable on Amazon "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" He did his studies in the 1930's on his own money for his own instruction. He was not under a grant from any institution pushing a certain product. He did a worldwide tour and searched out the healthiest tribes in the world and compared them to their adulterated foods neighbors. He even monitored a few individuals who had left the tribes to work in the modern world, noted their deterioration and noted their recovery once back on their native foods. Many of these people lived exclusively on meats and fats. Up to 80% of calories in animal fats. The best were from grass fed animals. This increased the levels of what Price called factor X but wwhat we now know as Conjugated Linoleic Acid. There are other protective fatty acids in these sources. The outstanding features of these peoples were their beauty, robust development (never fat, but never thin and elflike, which is the modern ideal) and profound immunity from TB and cholera which were the killer diseases of the day. They also had no heart disease, bowel disease, brain disease or any of the degenerative diseases that we think are normal aging today. Soy was never a big part of any of these healthy diets. Veganism was outright never the healthiest diet. There is today an Indian doctor in Britain who specializes in B12 deficiency symptoms because it was such a problem in India. (www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/.../display.var.1001911.0.my_work_is_a_labour_of_love.php)

I bought into the soy ploy for years and so much believed in it that I fed it as a supplement to my small herd of goats, chickens and rabbits for 2 years. I had profound fertility problems, development problems and growth problems the whole time.