Vitamin E Linked to Lung Cancer

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jjt — Mon, 05 May 2008 21:46:51 GMT

Vitamin E keeps the polyunsaturated fats in the cell membrane layer from oxidising by donating an electron if they become oxidised, thereby making the vitamin E oxidised. Vitamin C then donates an electron to the vitamin E so it becomes un-oxidised so it can continue its job as an anti-oxidant for the cell membranes fatty acids. It is critical that if you have a lot of fish oil (which is a poly-unsaturated fat highly prone to oxidation) that you get enough vitamin E to keep it stable. Then it is critical to get enough vitamin C to keep the vitamin E stable.

My assumption is that if you take a lot of vitamin E but inadequate vitamin C, the oxidised vitamin E will act as a pro-oxidant.

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dr gina obrien — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:36:57 GMT

this article is a bunch of bull feathers!!!!!

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letsdance — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:09:29 GMT

in raypeat articles, there seems to be some confusion on vitamin e and omega-3 supplements. could you explain. his article on omega-3 says not to take it because is oxidizes even after entering your body and can destroy the vitamin e. is this true. i am confused on this point. could someone please clarify.

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infinity — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:56:44 GMT

Did you get my comments on Vit E? My computer suddenly told me the "Page could not be displayed" when I clicked on "Submit" Gaye Leslie

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infinity — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:49:19 GMT

Hello: I found the Vit E article very interesting and informative. Of course, the quality of the supplements one takes is of tremendous importance. One has to read labels, research the producers, etc. One glaring omission I found, is any mention of the Shute Institute in Ontaria, Canada (I forget the town, maybe Stratford or near there). Many years ago, in their specialty of heart health, they noticed a significant number of researchers and physicians were touting Vit E as essential for healthy hearts and circulation generally (at a time when people taking vitamins were considered cranks). Back then you could buy Vit E with ALL the tocopherols and I believe one should take E as nature made it; the other three tocopherols (than the delta) have useful functions and in general, natural substances almost never have one function, there are always multipole jobs they do. I guess it's too expensive for companies to produce or extract all of the components of E. The delta is probably the cheapest. And we don't know yet how to really analyze any substance and know all its compoents. The Shutes found by investigating for themselves that E helps w/diabetes, it keeps blood at the proper viscosity (it clots when it's supposed to, and doesn't when it's not supposed to), it aids tremendously in scar prevention, and even reduction of old scars. They were written up a couple of times in Prevention. Gaye Leslie

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RozQ — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:27:46 GMT

I use Unique E that contains "Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol) 400 IU 1333%" "Proprietary Blend 432 mg d-gamma tocopherol, d-delta tocopherol and d-beta tocopherol". I like this product because there is no soy. I eat a healthy diet of mostly vegetables, meats, eggs, salmon, sometimes other wild seafood and probably get a fair amount of Vitamin E. But, I'm a late-diagnosed Celiac and my digestive track, while vastly improved, is not the same as when I was young. If I don't use the Vitamin E, I tend to get leg cramps. I also need to take other supplements to feel healthy.

Would a lower dose of Vitamin E work just as well, i.e., 200 IU (which I'm not sure is available).

I would be interested in any comments.

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countryclassic49 — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:48:08 GMT

The article stated we shouldn't take over 400 I.U. daily. For myself, that doesn't work. If I haven't taken vitamin E (the natural stuff) in about 4 or 5 days, even though I do have a healthy diet, the veins in my legs start to ache. If I then take 1200 I.U. one day, followed by a few days of 800, the pain usually goes away. I then reduce to 400 I.U. until I feel some vein pain again. Then I have to up it for a few days. I pay attention to what my body indicates. I have been doing this for approximately 20 years; my lungs and their capacity hasn't changed in that time that I've noticed. So I'll keep on doing what I'm doing. I think we have to remember we all respond somewhat differently to the same stimuli or vitamin, depending on our own body chemicals.

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HerbGal — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:37:11 GMT

DizzyIzzy, i agree with you about the terminology but I think Dr M uses the term 'brain injured' because he believes that autism (and autistic spectrum disorder) is caused as a result of vaccination (ie the brain is 'injured' by the vaccine).

You both just approach your 'condition' from different angles.

Truth is, who's to say what is normal and what is a more effective way of being the person you were meant to be? I mean, if because of your autism you have learned to be more aware of yourself and reactions and made healthier choices in your life, then you are a more effective person than a person without autism who lives on cr*p and blames the world for their problems. Therefore is autism a 'condition', 'brain injury' or 'awareness-raising mechanism'?? It's all about perspective.

I know I'm off topic but I have enjoyed reading Dizzy's posts.

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alobie — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:29:00 GMT

I used to be big on taking supplements, a multi-vitamin and other extra supplements along with it. I now only take Omega-3 and an occasional vitamin c tablet. I try to get vitamins and minerals from natural sources instead. I've always tried to eat right but now really focus on getting plenty of fruits and vegetables on a daily basis even more so. I don't think we need all these extra supplements especially if we eat right. It's not always easy to eat this way but as long as we try the best we can at it, we shouldn't need extra supplements. They would only be necessary if a vitamin or mineral was tested to be low in our blood or if it will assist a particular illness or disease. For instance, magnesium and coenzyme10 is good for Hypertension as heart related issues. Otherwise, taking supplements are just not necessary in my opinion. Plus, many of them have chemicals ingredients and other additives in them that are not good for us and we don't need to be putting these ingredients into our body. And, in this case with the vitamin e, taking too much can harm us and ignite problems. The best thing to do is to eat less junk fattening foods, and more vegetable and fruits. Skip those supplements.

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elizavetaka — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:01:16 GMT

..one more thing: if you are a former smoker, look into Pneumotrophin by Stand Process. That will address your lung issues to a 'T'.

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elizavetaka — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:59:42 GMT

...so basically,

Avoid: wheat, corn, soy and commercial dairy - as well as canola and cottonseed oils in any form.

Avoid sugar - fruit and dried fruit should be sufficient.

Follow Dr Mercola's protocols and also look into this line of supplements: Standard Process and their sister company Medi Herb. In two years of my trial and error and research, I have not found anything better. Also look into essential oils by Young Living and some of their supplements.

It's as simple as that. Get fresh air, get off the phone, take a few walks, watch a funny movie. Look into Flower Essences by Dr. Bach, if the EFT protocol does not work for you.

And voila! No more cancer! Your evil gene will remain dormant, and you may even enjoy a cigar or two..

:-)

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elizavetaka — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:55:16 GMT

Let's be realistic. Synthetic vitamins are crap, mostly. Just find some good oils to take or eat more oily foods and you'll be fine. What noone looks at, really, as part of the bigger, underlying picture, is that we are all being force-fed corn syrup (from GMO sources) and the staples of diet have been compromised. It's not a specific supplement that's going to save you or sink you, but the overall intake.

I am relatively new to this board - although I have been here perusing for a while, and often finding good tidbits of information among the posters. I highly respect Dr. Mercola, by the way, and if he does have Inner Circle and does sell his own supplements, my blessings to him: the man has to make a living. PR costs money. Everything costs money. The simple fact that these newsletters are free and everyone can access his website with its wealth of free info is, to me, something that speaks for itself. As to + points or - points: who cares? Get a life.. It's not grade school anymore, is it?

Anyway, yes synthetic vitamin E is bad for you, especially in high doses. Does it cause cancer? Hard to say. Everything could cause cancer. As a matter of fact, that whole line should be out of the common language. Nothing per se *causes* cancer - except perhaps being exposed to a nuclear fallout or extremely toxic chemicals.

What it is, as after a long time researching the matters I found out, is:

Our food supply is compromised. Add to that air, water, cell phones everywhere - you get the picture. That, in itself, already weakens the system. The system, then, collapses at its weakest point. In a smoker, it would be lungs, perhaps. In someone else, predisposed to breast cancer, it would be breast cancer. Or someone whose weak point is digestion - pancreas, or colon..

The person who mentioned Epigenetics is right. We do have these genes - different for everyone - and we do have an array or stressors more vast than at any given point in history.

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BarbaraAnn — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:10:58 GMT

Personally, I've been happy with the VIOBIN Wheat Germ Oil (unrefined, nothing added) as a supplement for Vit. E. I buy it on-line from whoever has the best price + lowest shipping cost.

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mrose — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:40:17 GMT

Wow - bring on the Almonds! According to this site 2 oz per day will give you all the E required. True? Any input?

www.health.gov/.../AppendixB.htm

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mrose — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:24:20 GMT

LADY PAM: Thanks for your comments on the inner circle post and the point system. I agree with you 100% on the negative points, however, I personally don't care if I have a gray bar forever. I love reading other's input, whether I agree or not. A note on the Inner Circle: I can afford the $24.95 per month, if I chose to join - I won't join because of the suggestion of Elitism. And, personally I'd rather spend that $300 per year at the Farmers' Market.

Yes, 30 points for a one-liner does not seem appropriate. It wonder how many would give negative points if they were required to state the reason why? Actually positive should be allowed with no feedback (or if required, some feedback), as it could be assumed to mean 100% agreement. But, it is unfair for someone to give you negative points, without saying why, as it might be only a portion of what you said that they disagree with (or is that "with what they disagree")! DOCTOR MERCOLA, are you listening? I think implementing that would add a whole new appeal to these comments...but you're the boss and can do as you wish.....