Is the Rise in Male Oral Cancer Related to HPV?

re: Is the Rise in Male Oral Cancer Related to HPV?

Horsea — Mon, 12 May 2008 05:47:12 GMT

Hi, Rivkah. Yes, that is an interesting article, if only because it proves that sexual twistedness is not exclusively a western phenomenon. Thanks for posting this. Personally, I suspect that people who have a strong urge to take in another person's sexual juices by mouth are probably deficient in nutrients and are unconsciously feeding themselves some minerals or other nutrients. Not unlike rabbits consuming their own *** (for minerals).

I see I got -2 points for my opinion. My, my, it seems I have gored an ox or two!

re: Is the Rise in Male Oral Cancer Related to HPV?

Vicki Marie — Sat, 10 May 2008 01:56:24 GMT

Why is the article focusing on oral cancer in boys only. How do you think the HPV gets into the girls' cervix? Duh, from the male. So, then there would also be a rise in oral cancer for women who also practice oral sex. And if you can get the HPV in your mouth, can you also transfer it by kissing? None of these are even mentioned? Why?

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kathrynrx2 — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:02:50 GMT

Anyone think that perhaps all this fear around HPV is manufactured to repress our sexuality? A few years back, doctors and nurses told me HPV strains that cause cervical cancer are passed from male to female. I asked if there was a test to see if a male was a carrier of the virus; they said, "No." Then, when I asked if it could be passed even if a person never had unprotected sex, they said, "yes". Seems like a scare tactic to trick healthy, young females into abstinence.

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curious7 — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:51:51 GMT

If we as humans had but one mate, we could have less disease in the world, after all this was the original plan. But we think it is ok to have sex with several people at once, and believe that there is no down side. Well hello the down side is here, in the form of disease. We have no way of knowing who is having sex with whom, even if we are married, but we must remember sex is a very nasty event, many germs are exchanged when we make LOVE.

So where are our moral values? The longer I live, the more I see that we need to learn just what morality is all about, and how a lack of morality effects us all.

re: Is the Rise in Male Oral Cancer Related to HPV?

Horsea — Thu, 08 May 2008 19:54:01 GMT

Maybe Mother Nature is trying to tell us that oral sex is un-natural and disgusting. There are cultures in this world, which, until recently, had never even heard of such a thing and when told that some people do this, were (understandably) horrified. Having a strong immune system to "protect" you from HPV-caused oral cancers is not the issue. Not in my books, anyway. If you can justify sticking your face onto someone's genitals, you can also justify anal sex and whatever other odd and filthy practice your little heart desires.

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chilimom — Thu, 08 May 2008 19:01:22 GMT

Well if you read the book on water "your not sick you are thirsty" you will find that he gives a very good

reason oral sex is not good and it has to do with body fluids being swaped. They are like alergic to each other. The book gives a very easy to read explaination any layman can comprehend. Most public Libraries have the book. The authors last name is Bateman something , he has a middle eastern name. The rest of the book is excelent but that part will open your eyes.

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helpothers — Thu, 08 May 2008 18:52:41 GMT

I was diagnosed with HPV 20 years ago. I initially had cryo for it, then some kind of lotion, then laser surgery. Eventually I had another bad PAP and the doc said we needed to do something more invasive - I was continuing to have ASCUS results. I asked if I could try something like vitamins and then get retested. So for three months I went on a vitamin binge and when I went back, viola, a clean pap smear. When I asked the doc he said - 30% of these things resolve on their own. I also read that vitamin B deficiencies can show up as an ASCUS result on a PAP. I never went back to him. No one ever typed me so I don't know what type I have but since then, I have cleaned up my diet and take supplements. I keep waiting for the bad pap so I can have it typed but it hasn't happened in over 10 years. I have given birth to three children none of which show any signs of infection and neither does my husband. When I was seeing a dermatologist for something unrelated, I asked about the HPV and he said that if you took samples of people's forarms, 90% of all people would show positive for some form of HPV. I can't tell you how steamed I get about these HPV vaccines. If I was to take a wild guess at why there is more oral cancer, I'd look no further than all the chemicals in our food and environment that we breathe, ingest, brush our teeth with etc. I think it is the ultimate reason for all the increases in cancers. We need to clean up the environment. I just wish I knew how to stop the chemical madness.

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LoriSmi — Thu, 08 May 2008 17:41:22 GMT

Hi MarkEllins,

Where would you purchase Shegoi? Sounds like a wonder plant. I know honey seems to have som euniversal properties, too, and I am always looking for natural items like this. What other ailments has this been used for?

Thanbks,

Lori

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julie-ca — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:25:25 GMT

"98 percent of the time, HPV is not even a high risk of causing cervical cancer. And 97 percent of the time, the HPV virus that women get is one that Merck’s vaccine Gardasil does NOT prevent."

To top it off:

The NNT for Gardasil is 88 - 160. Hmmmmmmmm.......

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CEM — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:22:19 GMT

If anything, the increase in the use of cell phones is behind the increase in oral cancers among men.

So once again, they are blaming humans for their unsafe sex practices, when in fact the immune system is fully capable of fighting off all illness, whether the person in question is a philanderer or not, when it is not being bombarded 24/7 with dangerous electromagnetic and microwave radiation from things like cell phones and cell phone towers.

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nofluvaccine — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:06:06 GMT

there is such a push for vaccinations right now it scares me. The propaganda going on is amazing.

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MarkEllins — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:14:46 GMT

HPV can be a devestating disease but a good treatment I have recommended is a product called Shegoi. It is made from the larrea tridenta (desert creosote) bush and is very effective against viruses including HPV.

It is available in both a lotion, spray and pills. I recommended it to a woman with severe HPV (7 genital operations and headed for her 8th); she used the lotion and pills and saw results within 3 days and remission within 60 days.

It is also very anti-inflammatory and anti-bacterial and I always take some with me when I travel. I can tell many first hand "miracle" stories about this important product.

I have also introduced it to many friends. I guess it is my equivalent of the "windex" in My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

On the immune system front, I have recommended and used a potent russian adaptogen supplement for 3 years that does an amazing job of peaking a person's immune system and putting their healing ability into high gear. This impacts all illnesses and has been a boon to health.

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Jinny — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:23:35 GMT

Some 70,000 chemicals are being dumped into our environment, 65,000 of which are potentially hazardous to our health. We live in a virtual sea of pollutants, and carry many of these toxins within us.

Is it any wonder why our immune system is not functioning properly.

I wonder what all is in that vaccine we are being recommended to give to our children?

www.sharethecause.com/reducetoxinsnow

" Every Chronic Disease Process is related to One Word: TOXICITY."

Dr. Buttar, Vice-Chairman of the American Board of Clinical Metal Toxicology

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AQ — Thu, 08 May 2008 11:32:13 GMT

I find the picture of a young boy next to an article talking about oral sex and the Rise in Male Oral Cancer disturbing.

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popoff — Thu, 08 May 2008 09:54:17 GMT

If not HPV, why is there an increase in mouth cancers?

In the UK, mouth cancer incidence has increased by 25% in the last 10 years.

Children are getting it when they never used to. It used to be a disease that old men got because of smoking and chewing tobacco, ie it was a slow developing cancer.

What has changed in the last 15 years?

Cell phones?

Never before have we put devices to our heads which pump out high levels of pulsed microwave radiation.

As well as being common sense there is also research, which is showing a correlation with cell phone use, even though the Interphone research programme is funded by the industry!! They just play down the adverse results.

www.mastsanity.org/index.php

Israeli Interphone study on salivary gland tumours showed a 50% increased risk on the same side as the phone was held.

aje.oxfordjournals.org/.../kwm325v1

Cellular Phone Use and Risk of Benign and Malignant Parotid Gland Tumors Nationwide Case-Control Study Published 6th Dec 2007

"The time is past when it could be said that this technology does not cause damage; apparently it damages health," said Dr Sadetzki [iv] According to Sadetzki, director of the Gertner Institute for Epidemiology and Health Policy Research at Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, current regulations do not relate to cancer as caused by radiation but to the health risks posed by the instrument heating up.Dr Sadetzki also called for children¹s use to be limited.

There was no press release about this Industry funded research presumably because it showed negative effects. However the large study was conducted in 16 countries and studied 466 patients and 1266 controls.

Also see:

www.powerwatch.org.uk/.../20080328_khurana_brain_tumours.asp

28/03/2008 - Brain Surgeon demonstrates clear brain tumour risk