A 'Silent Tsunami' of Hunger is Coming

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Jackye Chan — Thu, 29 May 2008 14:13:10 GMT

Switching to organic farming may be one solution to the food shortage but it doesn't help with the plight of the honeybees. According to one expert on Coast to Coast AM, the bees are being blinded by the extra UV light coming through our swiss cheese ozone layer. This same expert said that if you looked at the earth through a view finder and traced the ozone's shape, it would look like swiss cheese. This explains some of the weird weather being experienced world-wide, as well as to why the bees just simply can't see the flower's UV parts. The bees starve to death trying to find the flower's parts.

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MVHealthy — Thu, 22 May 2008 14:55:49 GMT

This is stuff is extremely scary. Like the vast majority of Americans I never gave a thought about what I put into my body or the harm it was causing. It wasn't until I got involved with MonaVie that I began to get online and study about nutrition, health, and the utter destruction of our food supply. My family now buys as much organic food as possible and we are starting to try and grow some of our own. There appears to be an awesome documentary coming out this June called Food Matters. A trailer is available at: http://www.foodmatters.tv

The more I learn about how harmful our food supply is the more hope is lost. Hopefully documentaries and websites like this will help to awaken the rest of America before it's too late. The fact that Americans spend the most money on health and seem to have the most abundant supply of food, yet have the highest rates of cancer, diabetes, etc than any other culture is startling.

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LJCurtis — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:27:25 GMT

I said:

The problem isn't there isn't enough food; the problem is there are too many humans!

pmcgall64 replied:

Well having said that the problem is there are too many humans, are you and your family volunteering to be first in line to do something about making that less of a problem

Ha Ha pmcgall64.

My wife and I decided how many kids to have (2) because it is below the number of children necessary for non-increasing population (something like 2.27 kids per couple)

When God said "Go forth and mutiply" he didn't add "until there are so many of you that you can't feed yourself."; that's why He gave us birth control.

monkeybrother said:

... it seems that one of the obvious, though not likely solutions, is not just consuming less or more appropriately, but is in having less consumers. Too many people.

I agree with you monkeybrother!

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curbin — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:21:06 GMT

Well of course we could round up the 2 million wild pigs from Texas, (A real number), and ship them over seas. :) We don't want them: In fact, scientist are working on a contraceptive for wild pigs. Talk about a renewable resourse. Those things will eat goats, sheep, deer, anything that moves slower than they do.

You better stay close to a good climbing tree.

It may not be the best food for the body, but should be better than starvation from "famine".

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USMom68 — Mon, 19 May 2008 14:52:36 GMT

I definately see many opinions on this subject. Frankly, all are valid and reasonable. Food shortages in the U.S. could very well be caused by the need for it somewhere else right now. This country has been donating a considerable amount of natural resources to some pretty devastated areas of the world and this country since the war began. Where do we think this food and fuel reserves are coming from?

I've noticed food shortages and fuel costs have always been affected during wartime. The U.S. is a very generous nation that supports many other countries and their peoples. Managing the issues that have arisen since the war has begun (many issues), would be a continually challenging position to be in. We shouldn't expect things to remain the same during wartime scenarios, but we somewhat do. We want to help, but we don't want to have to change the way we do things in order to give resources to another.

Growing a garden would be a marvelous idea, in order to self-sustain our families and communities. People in my area are filling their gorgeous, european-style landscaping with gardens of consumable food. They are opting to replace the water-sucking grass and flowers, with some water-absorbing, consumable vegetation. I think that's pretty brilliant and is a great way to "stick-it" to the man (if you know what I mean).

In Eastern Germany, where water is scarce and expensive (and has been for years), they collect rainwater for all yard maintenance. Of course, they don't have sprinkler systems. They grow gardens "on their land". I think many Americans may have forgotten how to use their land wisely.

As for the over-consumption of meat issue. It's a fact that most Americans over-consume meat. For us to deny that would be ignorant. However, I'm just as guilty, since I'm celiac sprue and pernicious anemic, my diet consists of meat and vegetables (and that's about it). I like my meat in package without a face. This would be a tricky one for me.

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starsailor — Mon, 19 May 2008 09:44:31 GMT

HK: Humankind's track record has shown that throughout history man can not rule man. He has done so to his own injury.

No, human history has shown that the race of Psychopaths rules man to his own injury.

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wiseman007 — Mon, 19 May 2008 09:30:07 GMT

I agree vegans arent the best healthy looking. I God created these animals for our consumption and control.but the meat industry is a huge profitable sector ,The greed to feed them share holders never will slow down eccelerated growth systems inplace.Over consumption of food in western countries have reached its peak. Its time to adopt for the coming rapid changes that will bring us back to traditional ways to eating or deciding what to put on the table.the poorest countrys know how to surviive with little they have.those countries dont suffer the life style diseases we have in western society. I rekon we better learn to appreciate the so many food choices we have been used toall these yrs. Mother earth cannot go on by man robbing and destroying the environment for what? greed and money that doesnt even exist in reality! Oh the rockefellers and rest of the gang have had their hands in evrything for centuries,systematicaly trying to also reduce the population thru food supply or adding pioson to our water.As long as people are very materialistic layed back and rely so much on the system, supply food chain systems, We deserve whats coming for us.We have allowed all this to happen!Keep sleeping

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mike4 — Sun, 18 May 2008 21:39:22 GMT

Michelle,

Rice and other whole grains are fine for your health (imo) There are arguments on both sides of the ledger. I can only back up what worked for me. At 60 i decuded to eat very little animal protein and eat mostly whole grains, legumes, veggies, salads and sone fruits. My overall bloodtest #'s in 1 year from eh to phenominal.

Lost 40lbs. without even trying, eating as much as i wanted. Never get a cold and never tired. I start my day (usually3xper week) with fruit (mainly berries and fresk ground flaxseeds) (yes, no fish oils and my #'s are great so don't buy into Mercola's baloney) I eat fruit alone, don't know if that works (not mixing it with other foods so it doesn't stay in the stomach) but that's what i do. Then the other meals always have a whole grain in it. Whole grains are fine, as proven by many studies. Hey, animal protein may also be fine, but i can only say what i've seen personally.

Mike

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monkeybrother — Sun, 18 May 2008 18:39:00 GMT

Maybe I read too quickly, but it seems that one of the obvious, though not likely solutions, is not just consuming less or more appropriately, but is in having less consumers. Too many people. In a world where greed rules, more consumers means means more profit. Greed hates natural cycles and thus contraction.

Meditation is the answer. No technique required. Just step out of the stream of unconsciousness that's being fed to the masses. I fear that is the high calorie no nutrient content that the massive masses are bloated on.

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Amicus Curiae1 — Sun, 18 May 2008 10:10:38 GMT

heres some thoughts- a few years back in aust, bio ethanol was added to petrol, the oil companies and even more so the car industry said it would wreck engines and reduce performance of cars. then, surprise! the info about how many people in other lands had been using it for years, and how much cheaper it would be...(rather like the diesel owners using chip/cooking oils to make bio diesel) suddenly it became a good thing~ now if you take some notice, there has been no drop in oil available to the market , but as stated above by a couple of smarter cookies, the chemical fertilizers are made from oil processing by-products, so are our cleaners,furniture and clothes! fertilizer prices in au went from 350 a tonne to 1,200 in one hit. so, if it suddenly costs more for fuel,fertilizer and seed( if you are a fool who doesn't save your own, and many are sadly.) then seed controlled by big ag also rose a lot. now oil producing seeds do NOT pay as well as food grain does, so? think? what market would you be aiming to sell and produce for?? there is some weirdness happening indeed, and i suspect it is media generated by large corporations more than a real event.. poor soils are not helped by artificial fertilizers, quite the opposite. as to food stocks, well old figures from usa dept ag shows a not so big amount sold (at subsidised rates) to overseas markets, then , hilariously!! you go and buy the same damn thing back!! from o/seas markets.your govt forces "free trade" on others, who neither need your produce, or want it! ie pork, wheat, corn, sugar, fruit and nuts, dairy. you have diseases and chemical contaminant issues, we really do not need in our national herd or orchards, and irradiating is not a real sane answer either!

as to reducing meat, well animals are not! meant to eat as much grain as people seem to think, their digestive system is designed to eat pasture grasses, strangely, they grow on land that is not good for grain crops.a bit of a no brainer? outta space!

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Tanya1 — Sun, 18 May 2008 09:51:18 GMT

i believe this food shortage is a structured one...as a tool for population reduction (mostly by the rockfellers) and to usher in gm...

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cudaa — Sun, 18 May 2008 03:59:13 GMT

If you want to see waste, just delivery milk to the public schools for a couple of weeks. I did that last year for awhile and was floored as to how much food was thrown out. I live in Washington state and I am sure this happens every where. The school people seem to just be oblivious to the waste. I mean it is really bad. As much as enough food someday for 100 kids or more, easy. We should start in the public school system. It is appalling.

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elmjcil — Sun, 18 May 2008 00:55:29 GMT

I am a novice and readily admit it. It would be nice to have more knowledge in this department but they made sure that most of the knowledgeable generation was already dead and gone before coming up with their schemes. Some people that were taught this from childhood are the fortunate ones.

We have started a garden this year. It is hard work (as GW would say) but the exercise is of great benefit. And, hopefully, the rewards. What I would really like to know now is how to preserve the produce. The freezer does not seem like a good alternative because it takes fuel to keep it running.

Canning? How do you make sure that your efforts in this direction are good enough to prevent contamination? Where do you find a canner? How big does it have to be? Which veggies are canable?

What about the preservation of meats? Or the storage of root vegetables?

Does anyone know of a good link to find the answers to these questions?

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flickrahke — Sat, 17 May 2008 21:06:32 GMT

I don't notice any comments on one of the most important factors in the reduced food supply for the world, the gross overconsumption of meat products. even is you are a protein type, it takes only very small portions of meat foods to satisfy the needs of a protein type. I personally don't really know my metabolic type and would be a vegetarian due to my own karmic reasons anyhow, so eat beans and rice and hemp protein and whey better proteins smoothies for an abundance of protein. Too much land is used for commercial cattle raising and horrible condititions for the cows. Of course this is not really a concern for most people , since animals apart from dogs and cats are not considered really living beings, but only the mechanical slaves of humans. Flick Rahke

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MMVCP — Sat, 17 May 2008 21:03:59 GMT

What I don't understand is the logistics of food trade. I hear of our beef being sold elsewhere and then we import beef from other countries. We ship off grain and wheat (gluten) and then buy it from other countries. The same goes for vegetables, fruits, etc. WHY?! I understand a few food products that are difficult to grow in the US, but we grow so much here. I bet if someone could sort this out, we would save A LOT of oil.

And what is up with ethanol? The rumor is that our corn went to ethanol and that there is a shortage of corn...I don't know one person with an ethanol burning hybrid. NOT ONE. I saw one once, but no one I know has one. There are only a handful of stations that even sell ethanol. So where did all of this corn go?

The more and more I read about Monsanto, government ops, Bilderbergs, Bohemian Grovers, Skull and Bones and the elite etc...the more I know that there is something going on. What? I may never have the time to figure out, but I am watching, learning and sorting it out the best I can.