Six Healthy-Sounding Foods That Really Aren't

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energymaster — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:03:58 GMT

I use xylitol and have had no problems with it...it doesn not cause an insulin spike, so what's wrong with it? It doesn't ferment in my stomach as far as I can tell.

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Tapir — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:09:57 GMT

I know this is a long post but i just need to add that his studies show that EFA's ( I'd rely on a health food store blend of Flax, borage, primrose, etc) does effectively cure cancer and will provide plenty of energy...forgewt the energy bar....IF carbs such as rice, granola nand other grains are omited including sprouted wheat. Ok so one piece a day is OK even a bowl of full fat ice cream is OK for the calcium. His theory is EFA's destroy cancer. Also this diet is good for diabetics and for losing weight.

People in this country do not realize how diabolical the food industry is, that it is responsible for the cancer epidemic as well as the diabetic epidemic and obesity, And I know where I live few people can afford the relatively few organics available. Big tobacco owns the pharmaceuticals and their driving force is to addict us all. That means high fructose syrups, msg in all its forms and fake flavors labeled as "natural', Soy protein is also useless like tofu and soymilk.

As for sugar whenever i bake a cake i use Xylitol. it tastes just as good as sugar is a little less sweet with half the calories.

Before 1920 cancer was almost non-existant.

Also apparently meat protein has more minerals that veggies and makes it more avalilable to digestion. EFA's increase oxygenation.

I need to get back to reading it I know my world is being blown upside down. But i think this time I'm getting it.

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Tapir — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:45:33 GMT

What we all need are EFA's: essential fatty acids. I've just started reading "The Hidden Story of Cancer" by Brian Scott Peskin and Amid Habib, MD based on Dr. Warburg's study. He debunks the need for sugar and carbohydrates. And believe it or not all fiber as well claiming that fiber slows the blood flow which along woth sugar is responsible for creating an environment for cancer and the spread of cancer. Cancer forms when cells do not have enough oxygen and it is only the EFA's which provide this...Omega 6 especially but recommends a 1:1 ratio or 1:2 of Omega 6 to Omega 3. The ratio is important and he recommends this as supplementation because so much of the omegas 6 in our food is processed or contaminated by additives and processing. he also states the need for plenty of aanimal protein every day and for vegetarians to rely on plenty of full fat cheese and free range eggs. Animal protein has the highest ionic measure. A typical breakfast for him is 2 eggs, bacon and sausage and 1 piece of toast with real butter. One piece of fruit a day , a vegetable or two. And also this olive oil things is a myth in that sunflower and safflower oils contain contain 65% - 75% linolelic acid compared to the 8% of olive oil.

The book is over 500 pages with extensive research and easy to read. Like Dr mercola he recommends "raw" milk ...for me that is totally unavailable. he also advises on the Essiac formula as a daily detox because as you know just from the air we breath ...and if you drink tap water....every mother's breast milk is full of metals and contaminates.

Cocanut oil apparently does not have an effect on curing cancer nor fish oil. He claims that all this hype about fiber is ..well he says all the nutrients in fiber are bound up to water and are not I say NOT available to our bodies. I have a hard time with this because my body responds well to a meatless diet and especially for curing colds a broth of dark greens and and beets cures it .

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jeanannd — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:07:07 GMT

Okay, first - on granola - you can buy no sugar added granola. Even better is to make your own granola. Yogurt - you can get no sugar added with fruit yogurt. Again - you can make your own yogurt. It's not difficult at all - you can get small kits that make over 4 to 8 cups of yogurt - and make your yogurt overnight.

Fruit smoothies - again you can make your own. That way you control what fruit, what protein - what does and does not go in your smoothie.

If you must buy - then read the label to see what is in the product. Shop and buy foods with low or no sugar, low fat - yes you can do it - just read the labels. But again - the freshest and best is what you make.

On salads and salad toppings - my husband makes fresh low cal diet dressings and healthy delicioues topping for mixed salads. The salad overall comes down to less then a 100 calories, very healthy.

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ThomasT — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:31:20 GMT

Tamadia. I cannot leave health to the chefs, when, should I go to a restaurant, I dont know that they are cooking only in 18/10 stamped stainless steel cookware, (Otherwise nickel, dyes etc go in to the food); how do I know they have not used a microwave oven to thaw or heat, (introduces carcinogenic radiolytic compounds and destroys all nutrients ); how do I know whcih oil they used, (many have plant phenols that inflame organs), how do I know they haver not added sugar, (all sugar is contaminated with asbestos) and a myriad other thngs that I dont believe any cooking school today yet teaches.

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tamnadia72 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:21:14 GMT

pbpace,

You are confusing "chefs" and "cooks." See? Not even spelled the same way. I can assure you that a good third of my curriculum was food chemistry and nutrition(and fairly progressive nutrition, at that), and that we seldom used microwave ovens and never used MSG, in school or on the job. And I stand by what I said about how the persistence of certain culinary habits of a people proves the benefit[or lack of harm] of the habits. A culture typically discards those eating behaviors that do not encourage survival--don't touch that, little caveman, that's rotting! There are exceptions, of course. To wit: if Americans persist in eating the SAD way, in the future, Greeks and Okinawans, who will still exist, will be debating the hypothesis that the SAD predicted the extinction of homo Americanus.

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zachem — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:53:36 GMT

I know of someone who tries to stay trim eating Power Bars. She either doesn't lose weight this way or will lose but gain it all right back. She is also stuck on anything that is sweetened with Splenda or any type of articficial sweetener to stay lowfat and lean but it doesn't work that well (she is already thin . I can't stand anything like that. I've been more successful eating fresh, no grains (only once in a while when I really crave and in a small portion to satisfy), and lean meats. If I do eat grains, my belly swells up to make me look as if pregnant. Also, alcohol of any sort does the same. I bloat very easily and swell from it, even if it's just a sip or two of my favorite beverage (love cream liquers but can't have 'em anymore).

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JKY — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:39:41 GMT

Greetings all! Interesting discussion.

Are any of you familiar with the Coronary Health Improvement Project or CHIP from Loma Linda University School of Medicine in California. Dr. Hans Diehl has over 20 years of evidenced based research in the US and worldwide) that going back to simpler foods (whole grains, fruits, nuts and legumes) is the best for creating a heatlher lifestyle. It has also been implemented in cities and worksites around the country and has lowered insurances costs at some of these sites.

http://www.sdachip.org/

www.ecommunity.com/.../index.aspx

I am a health care provider and I was appalled that my husbands clinician jumped on the statin bandwagon without nutritional counseling or discussion. My husaband is a ski racer and is in excellent health...except he did not eat what I cook and his cholesterol went to 290. I had the skeptical one complete the 4 week CHIP program and at the end his cholesterol was 154. It has stayed down and he is now the the unofficial posterboy for CHIP. He is 54 and tells me everyday about another one of his peers on medications (He is on NO meds for anything!) I think that anything processed, has one ingredient that you cannot say or don't know what it is or includes "natural" flavors, should not be going into your body. The dairy and meat industries have consumers so brainwashed that you need protein that there is a forgetfulness about the "processing" aspects. Same with GMO crops.

Try home cooking. It does get easier as you practice more. No Fear! Begin simply and get a system. eat whole grain cereals for breakfast. It takes less than 5 minutes to make an oatmeal of 7 grain cereal. I make an oat bake with a plain fruit filling (usually blueberries or strawberries and it cuts up to 16 bars) Its cheaper and healthier. I make all of our food for the week on Sunday afternoons and it makes my work week a breeze and saves a ton of money and doctor bills.

Be well!

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ThomasT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:17:39 GMT

Bilder 7. I will tell you my breakfast, as a serious 70 year young health nut, wih 45 years fitness club ownership/operation. Raw goats milk, fermented wih kefir, mixed with 3 raw egg yolks, (carefully washed shells). The whites are cooked in 18/10 stamped stainless steel, maybe with some beeffor or chicken liver/heart or other offal. A piece of rye cracker with thick butter and some non-clover honey (no coumarin) The eggs and chicken parts may contain some SV40 oncovirus, but they are very healthgiving, so I let my CD 4 white blood cells take care of the vius. The CD4 are very active due to organic germanium, selenium and vitamin C supplementation.

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builder7 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:30:39 GMT

So, we can't eat bacon, sausage, eggs, any processed meat, any cereal practically, energy bars, milk, juice, etc. What can we eat for breakfast?

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ThomasT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:19:12 GMT

TWS 500 Your Dr Baylock seems our of date. Maybe all that olive oil breaking down pituatary, hypothalamus and pancreas to make the cancer nucleus base, keeps his drills, saws,scalpels and lasers, busy taking tumors out of brains. Maybe smart, not out of date.

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ThomasT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:14:13 GMT

Tamnadia 72. Since when do chefs cook for health? Do you only use 18/10 stainless steel cookware? What oils do you use that are low in toxic plant phenols. Why do they have microwave ovens in restaurant kitchens when all food is de-vitaminised, and turned into a carcinogen? Do you use raw onion, garlic or mustard in any recipes? No thanks, I will use my own kitchen and leave your low science cooking for others.

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ThomasT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:04:11 GMT

Artica. i had a home in Spain for 20 years, (Llorett de Mar, Costa Brava) and travelled some there. I live in Europe and have visited Italy and Greece numerous times. The olive oil scam bases the so called Med. diet on fish, fruit and vegies, and olive oil. That is not what they traditionally ate/eat. For obesity look at soy with its thyroid disrupting hormones, the anti-depressant meds, look at aspartame and sugar ( in sodas, cookies and icecreams etc), add to that the original high intake of bread and potatoes, plus the inactivity, so why shouldnt there be obesity? The un-exercising Italians, Greeks and Spanish are hardly a picture of good health. However extra extra extra virgin is the olive oil, it does contain the three plant phenols that will take you to a malignancy. Sorry. This is 2008, and as the knowledge moves forward, so must we be flexible in our decisions.

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ThomasT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:48:53 GMT

Mom Shap, easy on the almonds, they contain mandelonitrite, which inflames your adrenal glands. This allows entry for nickel to easily draw in the cancer nucleus and cancer complex, leading to a malignancy there. You need to read more than just what is on the net. Then you can see the whole elephant, not just part of it, like you are using a penlight in the night that lights up small parts of it.

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dennholm — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:19:38 GMT

Racer's Wife-

This is a long but good article to read about fats/oils

articles.mercola.com/.../saturated_fat1.htm

Otherwise just search on mercola.com for fats or oils.

On this page, to the left there are a number of topics that should help answer some of your questions

www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm

Consider buying raw milk from a source near you

www.realmilk.com

As far as whole grain bread, most of what can be found in stores is probably not good for you.

www.westonaprice.org/.../be_kind.html

www.westonaprice.org/.../wheatyindiscretions.html

Excerpt:

"Sprouting, soaking and genuine sourdough leavening "pre-digests" grains, allowing the nutrients to be more easily assimilated and metabolized. This is an age-old approach practiced in most traditional cultures. Sprouting begins germination, which increases the enzymatic activity in foods and inactivates substances called enzyme inhibitors. These enzyme inhibitors prevent the activation of the enzymes present in the food and, therefore, may hinder optimal digestion and absorption. Soaking neutralizes phytic acid, a component of plant fiber found in the bran and hulls of grains, legumes, nuts, and seeds that reduces mineral absorption. All of these benefits may explain why sprouted foods are less likely to produce allergic reactions in those who are sensitive."