The Mediterranean Diet Can Stop Diabetes

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Hughi — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:52:55 GMT

Hi I am from the south east of France close to the italian border, I have some relatives in Greece and italy.

We dont eat tons of grains and pastas.... tons of veggies and fish for sure, yes we use cereals but most of them are not wheat, tomato sauce of course all the time, olive paste, olive oil, mussels etc chicken some pork, we hunt as well. some red wine, oregano, thyme, rosemary....

All my family is lean, no chronic disease thanks God and we usualy die around 95 ;-))) but definitely I can say that we haven't got that much grain, and we have staurated fat from Olive oil and the meat as well in our diet and we consider we eat traditional south east of France and Greece mediteranean diet.

Never heard we use a lot of grains in the mediteranean diet.

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ray2nite — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:11:40 GMT

Racyspyder, that was an interesting article. I especially liked reading the comments. It’s strange how most of the comments that disagreed with the article, sited other articles to prove their point. While most comments in favor of the article sited personal experience of how incorporating potatoes into their diet helped them lose weight or improve from some aliment.

I love potatoes myself. I eat them four or five times a week, baked, mashed, fired, boiled, salads, etc., with plenty of butter. So does my wife. Nether of us are overweight.

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Julieanne — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:17:01 GMT

truthseeker357

'America is screwed up by the Chosen Ones". Who are the Chosen Ones, and what do they have to do with some people CHOOSING to eat fast food , not exercise and generally lead unhealthy lives?

I would love to know.

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OnlyTruth — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:24:38 GMT

The Italians are the only Mediterranean peoples with whom I have supped, and then mostly in Florence but the most striking thing there is that their foodstuffs - even in restaurants - are fresh and real. Nothing is frozen, processed, microwaved, etc. The (seemingly) identical foods when eaten here do not taste the same. They have kept the emphasis on "quality" when it comes to food whereas in this country the operative word is "quantity".

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pinkskittles — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:08:17 GMT

olive oil rocks! i get a good kind from the farmers' market. two separate guys, both greek, have their own olive oils. super yummy. spanish olive oil made of arbequina olives is really good too. i don't do low fat anything. i'm all about fat. i love me some fat. i'm 5'1", i exercise and eat lots of fat and protein and veggies and i'm a nice, lean 108 lbs. i don't eat grains or many starches either, just bananas, and occasionally some corn and potatoes.

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david — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:38:22 GMT

This really isn't rocket science....eat what nature provides... in the way it grows, as we have done for thousands of years....until man-made junk arrived in relatively recent times.

If your 'food'... has a label of ingredients....it isn't fitting the bill.....and exercise to a good level of fitness.

OR....eat vast quantities of junk, sit on your ever- increasingly fat ***....do no exercise, get very sick....and die early.

....Your choice.

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Dr Rik — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:48:42 GMT

There are so many different ways that almost any combination of whole natural foods with any exercise at all would be so much better than the unmitigated/undiluted garbage that so many Americans insist on living on. You can fine tune your Wonder Diet any way you want.

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racyspyder — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:22:43 GMT

I recently read an article in Prevention magazine stating that potatoes and yams when cold contain resistant starch. They essentially change from a starch to a fiber. Here's a link to the article:

www.prevention.com/.../march.2008.issue

Has anyone else heard of this?

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Komic Kaze — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:56:11 GMT

Olive oil, the key to health. How about eating a whole foods diet? Forget about putting a label on it. How about the "eat the food that grows out of the ground" diet? Or the "diet that has food that is in its natural state?" The "organic whole foods diet!" I don't need a label to tell me what's healthy. I know how to read the ingredients list. If it has bad stuff in it, I won't buy it, no matter who is endorsing it.

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Luc Sala — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:25:18 GMT

Statistics have to be politically correct, but in reality most of socalled mediterranean folks live in Islamic culture, where a few more dietary rules apply like fasting (Ramadan) and no pork and in general halal food. So following the halal (or kosher for that matter) dietary rules is what is at stake here or should have been mentioned in the research reports.

In general believe obeisity (among other ailments) is primarily a psychological or psychosomatic issue and apart from individual cases one has to look at what defines the culture that generates these oversized and obeis folks. I suggest that the regime of fear and terror (real or fabricated), criminality, war, uncertainty since WW2 in the USA has caused those with a genetic inclination to do so, to overeat (and obvious go for those foods that are effective at the hormone/chemical level). Being fat is often, by psychologist, seen as a defense and the question is a defense to what. Again individual cases nothwithstanding, this is an epidemic dvelopment and one should look at the deeper causes. The food patterns are a result, not a cause, changing the diet is at best dealeing with the symptoms, not taking care of the root case.

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bagarino — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:08:19 GMT

One problem with the Med. diet (and I'm writing from Italy!!) is when you do an experiment that controls people's diets you cannot control other aspects of their life. I have no doubt that people who stuck "closely to the diet were 83 percent less likely to develop type 2 diabetes" but those same people in the USA ARE LIKELY TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF OTHER ASPECTS OF THEIR LIVES SUCH AS EXERCISING REGULARLY OR GETTING PLENTY OF FRESH AIR.

FACT: The people of the south of Italy have the most Mediterranean diets but are fatter (and live fewer years) than those in the centre of Italy (Rome) who in their turn are more obese than those in the north who eat the least 'Mediterranean' diet.

FACT: The longest-lived Italians are those in the north-east who are ALSO the slimmest. They have the double benefit of living close to the sea (the Adriatic) and the Alps. They get plenty of fresh air all the year round (skiing in the winter); the highest rates of particiption in sports and outdoor recreation.They are.... err... also the richest and have the highest rates of school attainment and the lowest rates of unemployment in Italy. The only problem for the epidemiologists promoting the Mediterranean diet (and Italy and Spain want to list it as a 'Patrimony of Humankind' with UNESCO and spend millions promoting it so that people worldwide will buy their pasta, wine and olive oil) is that these people have the LEAST Mediterranean diets (with a lot of pork and beef) of all the Italians.

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Health Dragon — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:57:04 GMT

He says "no one diet can be right for everyone". Reading this in generalized way, it would make sense. But, again, in the Okinawan diet, you have an entire nation that eats very similar, and they achieve very similar health benefits. Mediterranean same thing.

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Health Dragon — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:54:15 GMT

I don't understand. It's always been my conclusion that if you wanted something in life, it's best to look at the people or person that has achieved that goal, and try to see how what they did got them there. It's not a secret that the Okinawans are the healthiest, most long lived people in the world. Even more than the Mediterraneans. Mercola always speaks out against grains, yet if you look at their food pyramid (www.okinawaprogram.com/.../okinawa_diet_food_pyramid.html), it clearly shows 7 to 13 servings of whole grains next the equal amounts of vegetables. How is it that they manage to be the healthiest people on the planet if grains are the devil? I'm not being sarcastic...I would love if Dr. Mercola could answer this.

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Alexis_203 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:40:50 GMT

The Mediterranean diet is NOT filled with red meat and bread. Where do you get this stuff from?