Why Low Cholesterol is NOT Good For You

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dcdcdc — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:13:10 GMT

The book "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon is a great resource on Cholesterol and saturated fats (being good for you.) It is my favorite book ever and I have a lot of books.

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ghprice — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:33:13 GMT

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proteintype — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:24:16 GMT

Hey Samauri, I read Dr. Mercola's Post. "So with a low-fat diet and plenty of exercise and oat bran (no drugs) I was able to get my cholesterol to a ridiculous level of 75. Yes you read that correctly -- my TOTAL cholesterol was a measly and pathetic 75 points. "

Then I read Samuri's post. "My cholesterol is a supposed perfect 140 and I have adrenal exhaustion.

Dr. Mercola is right; too low is bad."

In response to others, I also do better on the protien diet...I was a vegetarian at one time, which I think I might have screwed up something in my metabolism. Now putting one muscular weight has been a real challenge. I find that if I have a good meal of just vegetables/rice, etc. I wake up the next morning...feeling like a 16 wheeler is attached to me. But, as i last night...I had a small "supper" as the Ayurvedic says smaller meals at dinnertime. of Grassfed beef, broccoli some Thai potstickers. I then proceeded to finish tidying up the house. later I had a half coconut/chocolat macaroon and 3 glasses of raw milk before bed. Mind you, is is even in a house where the AC is out.

I felt wonderful this morning....it never fails me. I can always feel a surge of well-being the morning after a meal with high quality red meat. I don't eat it too often as I am concerned about uric acid later on, but I don't do mushrooms, beer or much asparagus.

And, as Samuri said, I too experienced exhuasted adrenals...after seeing a Chinese doctor a few years ago. Ok, here is the climax....are you ready! My cholesterol was down to 105. Now it is around 258 I think it is. LEF says it is a little high, and recommend I get back on my gym routine...I fell of the exercise program for a year, and as his article mentions above, I lost a family member suddenly, ended a 20 year friendhip over being rejected...for another human, but for material "things" On top of that, a serious emotiional upset with another family member. Based on this article, now I see how the numbers can run up. So, it is slowly back to the gym, meditating, affirming, etc. pulling myself to a better state of balance, meaning not a total state of balance, which can become stagnate. I have new projects and new friends/business partners. All is looking very promising. Thanks to those who posted and allowed me to have a couple of "Aha" moments.

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purchaser — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:32:22 GMT

I review medical records in my job. Recently I had a case where the person had a cholesterol level of 135 and his physician not only insisted on a cardiac catheterization (which showed no blockage) but also put him on Plavix. The poor patient didn't know any better, but doctors like this should be losing their licenses.

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freetorun — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:42:59 GMT

Have any of you heard of children being put on these cholesterol lowering drugs? In particular Lipitor? What would be the reasoning for this? Wouldn't the risk of liver damage be huge in children?

My hubby went with my son to boyscout camp....He (my husband) has 5 children he is in charge of. He has to give medications to 4 of the 5 children daily..the only one not given medications is my son. One of the boys (they are all about 11 years old) is on Lipitor! (the rest are on ritalin or something similar...sad)....I have a hard time believing that parents are giving him this knowing the risks.....

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Julieanne — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:51:56 GMT

scaggs184

It is not exactly my argument, it is the author of ' The China Study' (Colin Campbell MD) but I know what you mean. A friend of mine said something similiar.

I can only say (and you will have to read the whole book) that several doctors mentioned in the book were treating patients for heart disease, and ALL improved when their cholesterol levels went down.

About a third of the book is devoted to the politics of how information is suppressed, from Colin Campbell's own experience. It is scary stuff - not just Big Pharma, but hospitals, government and other doctors.

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Lenette — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:40:36 GMT

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yauboo — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:59:44 GMT

The cholesterol index wad 280 back in 1968. we all know now why it is lowered to 180. Mine has been between 300 and 350 when i got the cholesterol reading the first time 30 years ago. I can not get it lowered than 300 no matter how much diet and exercise i get.

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Julieanne — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:30:49 GMT

Here is my two cents worth.

Taken from 'The China Study' p78: ' As blood cholesterol levels in rural China rose in certain counties,the incidence of 'Western' diseases also increased. What made this so surprising was that Chinese levels were far lower than we had expected. Tthe average level of blood cholesterol was only 127 mg/dL, which is almost 100 points less than the American average (215 mg/dL)! Some counties had average levels as low as 94 mg/dL. For two groups of about 25 women in the inner part of China, average blood cholesterol was at the amazingly low level of 80 mg/dL.

....Our low values are near the high values for rural China. Indeed, in the US there was a myth that there might be health problems if cholesterol levels were below 150 mg/dL. If we followed that line of thinking, about 85% of the rural Chinese would appear to be in trouble. But the truth is quite different. Lower blood cholesterol levels are linked to lower rates of heart disease, cancer and other Western diseases, even at levels far below those considered 'safe' in the West.

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Nevadan — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:49:46 GMT

An excellent book summarizing much of the history of the cholesterol hype is "The Great Cholesterol Con" by Anthnony Colpo (beware of another book by the same name which is not nearly so good). Colpo describes the bad science, business interests, egos, and politics that has created the multi-billion dollar statin business. He also go on to describe what are probably the real causes of heart disease and how to resolve them.

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Lady6spd — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:50:48 GMT

Why doesn't Dr. Mercola address ways to increase cholesterol since that's what the article is about? My cholesterol is around 120-130 and I think it affects my hormones and memory. Anybody have any ideas on how to increase total cholesterol? My HDL is at a great level. Thanks!

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JanetG_203 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:26:25 GMT

Many years ago I always came up with the cholesterol score of 8.7 (obviously scored differently here in Australia), and was told it had to be less than 5.5. At the time I was a vegitarian who only occassionaly ate cheese, so I tended to ignore the recommendations to go to statins. Eventually I met a doctor who insisted and so I am now on them and my score is 4.5. My husband always got a score of 4.5 and was told he was great. 2 years ago he had chest pains and was flown to Brisbane by the flying doctor (1000k away), where they found 9 blockages and did 5 bipasses. The surgeon said after that if he had known that he was so full of cholesterol he might have refused to do the operation. It seemed that all his arteries are absolutely clogged with the stuff - so much for the great cholesterol score! Now he is on statins and also takes B6, B12 and megafol as they say he has hyperhomocysteinemia which is a fault in a gene MTHFR - we found this out after his son found he had it and it is inherited so he has it too (Won't tell you what their slang for this gene is but you might be able to work it out!). Even after all this the doctor wanted him to have a fasting blood test the other week to check his cholesterol levels as they now want to get everyone down below 3.5 here. Told the Doc that the result will not be accurate given the history, but they insisted! Wow, his levels are now at 3.5 - does this mean that all that stuff in his arteries never existed? I don't think so. Unfortunately the only way we can find out just how clogged up he is now, is to open up an artery and look - not willing to do that.

All this makes me wonder just how accurate are these tests and what are they really telling us anyway?!!

Also no-one told us to take COQ10 either - I had to find that info out while looking on the web, and our Doc cannot understand why we take it - some education needed here I think!

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svsiemers — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:57:14 GMT

With all due respect to Dr. Mercola, he is still caught up in the good cholesterol-bad cholesterol myth. LDL can also be good cholesterol. In women over 60, the higher the LDL, the longer the life span. No one has bothered to try to find out why, but one bit of speculation presented in the book The Cholesterol Myths (sorry, folks, out of print) is that post-menopausal women may get some protection against heart trouble from LDL the way pre-menopausal women do from estrogen. When post menopausal women were given estrogen in a study that it was hoped would prove HRT (hormone replacement therapy) could prevent heart attacks, the study was terminated prematurely when they found that HRT increased rather than decreased heart attacks. So perhaps, when our bodies change at menopause, there is something about the LDL that affords us some protection that estrogen provided when we were a few years younger. In addition, there are two kinds of LDL - the big fluffy stuff which is harmless and may in fact be good for us, and the little stuff, which is apparently what we want to avoid. Read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes for detailed and well researched information on why we need to quit worrying about our cholesterol, and instead worry about the "bread basket" of old - in other words, the big belly and fat waist that come from eating too many carbohydrates.

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Maurine1 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:45:32 GMT

I got my doctor to lay off hounding me about cholesterol (in fact, I've been trying to educate him). I was "raised" on Adele Davis nutritional information and still have her books. I make my own yogurt, grow broccoli sprouts, etc., avoid hydrogenated products and grocery store oils. My irregular heartbeat settled down beautifully.

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pinkskittles — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:24:00 GMT

I feel too good when I eat natural foods that are high in fat and cholesterol like meat and eggs but I feel awful when I eat low fat foods that are recommended, like grains and cereals and stuff. I'm going to go with my "gut instinct" and go for the fatty, animal based foods that doctors say to avoid... :o)