The Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food

re: The Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food

ayodele — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:35:36 GMT

I am about to embark on drinking mineral water with a couple of teaspoons of apple cider vinegar for arthritic purposes. Any oppositions to this and why?

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Ali Steven — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:33:42 GMT

I really appreciate all of your comments. Just wondering, anyone know about Edamame? It's the actually soy bean in pod, so should be safe right? If organic of course. And I have an old recipe book based on eating a raw diet, "The Healthy Peasant". It suggests using soy flour or soy beans in nearly every recipe. I have not because I was unclear on the latest soy research and knew it could mess with your hormones. But should we fear the actual soy beans? Hopefully my questions will be answered by the recommended book.

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Jayne G — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:40:43 GMT

Can anyone advise about natto? Does it affect the brain and thyroid? I have been eating natto for the heart benefits of nattokinase (yes it tastes awful, just just swallow it with a drink after each spoonful) but I have a poor thyroid, just eliminated a goitre with iodine plus grain free diet. Any comments appreciated.

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JRuss — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:07:38 GMT

Someone I know walked into a fast fried chicken place, joined a line and saw a sign that said the chicken was no longer cooked in trans-fats. When it was her turn, she asked what the chicken was cooked in and the cashier did not know. She told her to find out. Several minutes later the cashier came back and said 'Soy Oil'. She said 'Thank You' and left because she was allergic to soy.

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CindyLouWho — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:18:39 GMT

What I am seeing lately is that the refrigerated/non-refrigerated Almond/Rice milk products still may also contain soy....just read the ingredients labels carefully! Some have no soy, some within the same brand line even have it...I don't know why or how to determine, and maybe if we all started writing to the mfg to complain this....

hey, I did find "Hazelnut" milk, my son loves it, and no soy....in a 32 oz carton (not in the refrigerated section) at the health food store.

What is aggravating to me is that the more labels I read, mfg's are putting some type of soy in everything. It has become a type of filler. So while the my kids used to only get soy in one glass of milk as a milk beverage, they could conceivably be getting it all day long, "hidden" in food! That is just careless and wrong.

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Hueso — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:19:17 GMT

I was wondering if anyone knows if powder soy is fermented or not because my aunt just started drinking smoothies that consist of four tablespoons of soy powder to help with her diabetes.

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IVETTE — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:08:05 GMT

What about Non GMO soy. I give "Silk-Very Vanilla Soymilk to my children?

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CindyLouWho — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:10:32 GMT

Easy does it! "Disciple" is a victim of mis-information, like ALL of us are from time to time! So, rather than attacking someone based on their expression of faith (this to Sathyam, with a gentle rebuke, your comments are less "enlightened/tolerant" than you portray them to be... and to everyone else, please be kinder, to each other, thank you). This season has seen quite enough faith based/interracial mud-slinging. I too was once misinformed on the soy issue, my first displayed an intolerance to milk based formula and through research (no i-net available 20 yrs ago) determined it was milk protein. Though I breast fed my child I was young and naive and believed I should "supplement," the only avail option back then was soy formula. My second child (much later) was also intolerant of milk protein. As soy products became more popular, they became more readily available and palatable...it was easier to feed them to my family. I continued to research this, because the more we ate, the worse we felt. Only recently has more information become available to me about the harmful effects of soy, first from Mary Shoman, Thyroid Foundation. Prior, had you told me that soy was harmful, I would have staunchly defended the only thing avail to us also. Hey, how many soy products are available in the "health food" stores after all? don't you see? Rather than be angry and spiteful, I now choose to share the information/resources I have gained...like Dr Daniel's book. Or even information about excitotoxins (msg, aspartame), from Dr Blaylock. Thank you Dr Mercola for bringing this information, and a forum to discuss it, in a civil manner.

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GWN — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:21:06 GMT

I have been drinking about 1 glass of Eden soy milk a day for several years. It shrinks my prostrate and prevents me from having to urinate several times during the night. It also prevents "urgency" issues during the day. When I go off of it, the problems return immediately. My PSA also dropped while I was drinking it. I mix it with unsweetened tart cherry juice concentrate. It is very good. I am 60 years old.

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bulletproof — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:05:50 GMT

Five years ago I started having hormonal problems after having a baby. A friend suggested I use soy to balance out my hormones. For 2 years i had horrible 'female problems', my hair fell out in clumps, I lost so much weight that sitting was painful. I quit using soy and slowly regained my health.

5 years later I'm back to normal, my hair has finally started to thicken, I've gained weight and my female problems are a thing of the past. I still have huge discolored spots of skin across my face and am considering having my skin bleached to even it all out.

My husband had gotten on the soy wagon, but after noticing his weight ballooning he stopped all soy products.

Soy is bad, in my opinion , and I narrowly escaped the butchering practice known as a hysterectomy on account of it....

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PureEvil — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:17:42 GMT

Soy is not really the problem it is the fact that it is genetically modified and the it is not to be used for as main ingredients for everything and processed, for thousands of years the chinese and japanese have been eating the soy but they have been eating the soy the right way and not the way it being done here in the states.

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DizzyIzzy1 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:54:21 GMT

Another good website you should all check out is www.soyonlineservice.co.nz It's a huge resource on soy and the dangers of consuming it - plenty of scientific papers, latest findings, research, testamonials, correspondence... you name it. One of the best sources of info on why soy is bad I've found so far.

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Nobsy — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:19:01 GMT

amenlady -

Did you read the book? Or done any studying online? That would answer the question "Seriously, what's so dangerous about soy?"

Soy presents a real danger to your thyroid gland - especially causing hypothyroidism. Big does not necessarily = healthy. Thyroid disease does not present itself like a cold or flu. It is a silent disorder in many until the symptoms are severe. Maybe your family won't be negatively affected, but maybe they will ... so why take a chance? Educate yourself.

My son was seriously allergic to milk and I had to give him a formula called Isomil (soy based). This was back in the late 1960s. 35 years down the road he was diagnosed hypothyroid and became diabetic.

Like you, I think dairy food should be used with caution. I only use fat free dairy foods (I get my fats from healthy sources like olive oil and grape seed oil) and I use them in moderation. I use fat free plain yogurt in fresh fruit smoothies (some pineapple juice, some fresh pineapple, a couple bananas and about 6 oz. of non fat greek yougurt high in probiotics is a favorite). And my smoothies help me with my ice cream cravings - I love ice cream but don't go near it.

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amenlady — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:17:22 GMT

Hi, I wanted to put my 2 cents worth in, because - honestly - soy IS NOT bad for everyone.

My family and I have been using soy products - the whole line: infant formula, milk, meat analogs, soy 'ice cream', etc.. - for more than 30 years. I had 4 children, including a set of twins. None of my children were premature and all of them are tall, healthy, extremely intelligent [straight A honor students] individuals. None of them or us, their mom and dad have ever been sick [no, I take that back, my husband had a bout of flu this past winter]. The only time we're in a hospital is as a visitor; or having a baby :>D.

Two of my children are now parents themselves; 5 grandchildren.

My son's partner was raised on dairy and meat, so her three children are being raised likewise - all three were premature and sickly. And continue to be so. And the mother just had a hysterectomy at the age of 22. What's bad about soy??? Check out dairy!!!

My daughter is raising her two children the way she was raised on soy; none premature, each a good size for a baby [7lb 8 oz and 8lb 5 oz]. Born on time [full 9 months] NEVER sick, literally!! At 3 years old her son is right in the 75% percentile of his weight and height for his age group. Very highly intelligent said his pediatrician. Keep up the good work!

Also, I am a Seventh Day Adventist, a good percentage of our church uses soy without any bad side-effects. But I am not saying there aren't some folks who cannot handle soy, just as there are loads of folks who can't handle dairy, BUT WHY BRAND THE WHOLE OF SOY as dangerous when my family has experienced nothing but good?? One other thought, I wish soy would put weight on, but it doesn't for everyone.

There is good and bad in every kind of food in the market today, some of it is highly toxic to certain individuals and yet extremely healthy and life giving to others. We just need to be aware of our own bodies and what is good and what is bad.

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sfjack — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:59:26 GMT

Ever gotten sick on soy? I have, and it feels like poison in the body. So much so, that every time I eat something with soy (hidden in the ingredients), I get sick again. I'm not alone in this. Please be careful with soy....at least, don't overdo, the way I did...eating Soyyogurt every day. Not a good thing. I have never fully recovered from this, gastrointestinal-wise.