12 Babies Die During Vaccine Trials in Argentina

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Artica — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:18:29 GMT

I'm just wondering, is there any circumstance that people here on this board would admit to any vaccination being necessary?

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Artica — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:08:58 GMT

I disagree with untested vaccines being put on the market and all the toxins in them. And certainly about using infants as test subjects. But everyone seems to up in arms about ALL vaccines. You are aware that naturopathic medicine is what has been available to most of humanity for 100,000 years yes and that Vitamin C never helped against the plagues, rheumatic fever, mumps, measles, tetanus ad nauseam?

And about sugar increasing polio? YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT? So all those dirt poor humans for the past say 7000 years (I don't know how long polio has been with humanity) were eating excess sugar? Yes, because refined sugar was so available to them.

You've forgotten that children used to die quite frequently from all these diseases (Yes, it's all a hoax that in the 15th century, people died like flies, they all ate garlic and lemons and they were fine.) I do agree that hygiene has helped a lot but in the past many people were hygienic and still died (not everyone was European believing washing made you sick).

People are able to get away with not vaccinating their children these days in Western societies because most of the other children are vaccinated so the disease is not there. Why don't you go to a place where measles is quite frequent and just take Vitamin C and see what happens? It's easy to mouth on from where you are on about Vitamin C. But seriously, I dare ALL of you, go unvaccinated to countries where all these diseases are quite rampant and I'm not talking about exotic diseases with no cure like chikungunya, dengue fever, cholera etc but mumps, measles etc. I bet you won't risk your babies lives like that. It's easy

I'm not against natural medicines and do not trust pharmaceutical companies, they are not interested in health, just money but neither am I going to throw the baby out with the babywater and believe that nature is the only solution when it hasn't for most of humanity's lifespan.

This website has many good things.

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Dr. Ochsner — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:27:50 GMT

Vaccines and their dangers must be fully disclosed. Think about it, not one vaccine has ever been tested to see if it causes cancer, yet they HAVE to test Lipitor for a cancer causing effect before it was approved. That's because THEY DO CAUSE CANCER, and the pharmaceutical companies and the government know it. They also cause God knows what else when you inject that toxic brew over 55 times by 6 yrs old (according to CBS News just last week it's 55) Come learn the truth at the Chicagoland vaccine seminar on Saturday, August 2, 2008. www.mercola.com/.../Vaccine-Conference-Chicago-August-2008.aspx

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tigator — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:15:20 GMT

All during my childhood I got influenza once a year and was very sick - missing a week of school each time winter.

I went into the military and received the flu shot every year and I never go influenza while enlisted. I got out and the once time I did not get the shot, I contracted influenza and I was pregnant. It was horrible!

So, I went back to getting my yearly flu shot and have never contracted influenza since.

Now, why is that?

Another thing, my 11 year old has asthma. We were at his pediatricians office last week. She made an appt. for Oct for him to get the flu shot (because he's high risk based on his asthma), a tetnous booster, and a menigitious vaccine for 11-18 year olds.

I am really worried now! I'm confused! Would it be helpful to space the tetnous and menigitous vaccines a few moths apart?

My 14 year old got the 1 booster of gardisil last year but soon after I did some research and refuse her to get the rest of the set of shots. I only regret being talked in to getting that first booster.

I'd love to hear replies.

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ladybug — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:30:41 GMT

DID YOU KNOW THAT PROPERLY ADMINISTERED VITAMIN C KILLS VIRUSES. ALL VIRUSES. THIS INCLUDES THE DREADED HIV VIRUS. PLEASE SEE LINUS PAULINGS WRITINGS. JUST GOOGLE THE ABOVE. YOU WILL THEN UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS BEEN RUMORED ABOUT THE ORGINS OF AIDS, AND WHY THE W.H.O. LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF VITAMIN C ON THE AFRICAN CONTINENT, WHERE AIDS IS A DEVASTATION, JUST THE SAME WAY IT IS BECOMING AMONG AMERICANS OF AFRICAN DECENT IN THIS COUNTRy.This is from curius7,.I wanted to ad that vinegar,different oils,like lemon oil also does the same thing,but mostly just eating right will have you avoiding these problems

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larissakissa — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:43:52 GMT

To KDA: I stoped vaccinating my 1st child when he was 4 months old, and everything was just fine. Actually, after I stopped, he started to gain weight, and before he was just skinny. I think you should just stop all vaccines, why put more poison in his body? I did no vaccinate my 2nd and 3rd children and I could't be happier with my decision. Don't let anyone pressure you to make a decision you might regret for the rest of your life.

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ez2remember4me — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:12:14 GMT

CrowSnake and all others who believe that vaccines have rid the world of all of these diseases that we have been led to believe are "deadly"....First of all, vaccines only INCREASED the cases of polio and were NOT the cause for the decline in ANY of the diseases. A decrease in the consumption of sugar was found to decrease polio. Second, 90% of all people who have polio don't even know they have it. Vacciness do the exact OPPOSITE of what they are supposed to do...they decrease our immune function and make us more vulnerable to the disease they are supposed to prevent. Third, antibodies are formed in your gut and THEN go into your bloodstream. Antibodies cannot FORM IN your bloodstream (where they are injected). How could we possibly think that injecting pus, metals and other toxic ingredients into our bloodstream would actually make us healthier? Fourth, tetanus (which is ONLY found in horse manure) can be treated with simple hydrogen peroxide and washing out the wound good. You can also use the BANT method if unsure. If you are one whose immune system is defenseless and happen to get the disease, you can still choose a natural treatment of immunoglobulins to treat this disease. I could go on and on but the best source I have found for what actually was responsible for the declination of the disease and the declination of the death rate among these diseasese are from Sherri Tenpenny. I used to be just like the "average" person and was brainwashed into believig that vaccines would prevent you from getting sick...Fortunately, I've done my research and I pray that everyone else will soon find out the same.

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dale67 — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:33:05 GMT

Just wanted to say thanks for giving a natural preventative as easily accessable as essential oils. Something simple we can all do to help the health of the whole family, and I can even probably get my in-laws to try it!

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curious7 — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:00:18 GMT

You know the so called infectious diseases we are now faced with come from irresponsibility. You know proper hygiene, like washing hands before meals, and hospital personell washing hands from patient to patient. Next there is that dreaded eating out thing, behind people we know nothing about. Remember the black death. Unsanitary conditions allowed the spread, not too unlike what we are facing today.

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Maurine1 — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:02:09 GMT

to CrowSnake (the reply button wouldn't work): I have found big doses of Vitamin C keep my sinuses clear. I take it to keep my capillaries strong (kidneys and eyes; I've had diabetes for 22 years) but it also keeps infections away. Before antibiotics, now less and less effective, took over, vitamin C was demonstrated to be wonderfully effective if used in large enough doses when needed. See Irwin Stone's on-line book http://vitamin foundation.org/stone/

The Healing Factor

Vitamin C Against Disease

By Irwin Stone

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LightWorker — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:11:37 GMT

To ALL the EN lightened ONES; Bless you and Dr. M. for carrying the torch. I knew we had it wrong on aids 20+ years ago. An Australian PhD. introduced the hand soap that was proven better than a 20 min. surgical scrub to clean under the nails. It is still available in "The Cleansing System". WE auto-innoculate our selves; All we ever have is our own immune systems, therefore, Gary Young of YoungLiving, the formulator of therapeutic essential oils, won't vaccinate his horses. A mother who gives her daughter Gardisil is promiscuous ! (was-been=will-be) " It's the terrain...", Pasteur said on his death bed.

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LJCurtis — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:50:55 GMT

How many children total were in the study? How many of the deaths occurred in the test group and how many occurred in the control group?

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TWS500 — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:26:55 GMT

The two words "Vaccine trials" almost scared me to death.....!!

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curious7 — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:59:09 GMT

Science is now out of hand in persuit of the all mighty dollar. We now have laws in many states mandating vaccines, and right under our noses, BIG PHARMA is trying to pass more such laws, and this next generation is at high risk of being vaccinated to death. You have I am sure heard about the new meningitis vaccine, well go on line and take a look at the stats on this drug.

Under our noses our government is removing our rights, and we are allowing the government to just walk all over us. These vaccines are just one example.

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No2Vaccines — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:18:09 GMT

It sounds as though we all need to do something. A Petition has been created online to put our voices together, and stop the madness. I encourage everyone to sign this Petition relating to vaccines, autism, safety, and compensation. Imagine what tens of thousands of signatures could do!

www.petitiononline.com/.../petition.html

Please forward thiis to everyone you know.