Diabetes Drug Causing Deaths

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HealingMindN — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:29:02 GMT

A few days ago, my mother began seeing an endocrinologist (with an HMO) since she has type 2 diabetes. I thought for sure that this doctor would look into all of her hormone levels like insulin and leptin and try to find out how well her organs are functioning. The only thing he's ordered so far a is a glucose test.

Now, he did recommend important lifestyle changes such as that recommended by Dr. M. But he also immediately put my mother on byetta. He said it was a "naturally derived hormone that has helped millions of people." He did mention that she should stop taking byetta if she get upper abdominal cramps because this indicates pancreatitis. He did not mention any of the drawbacks that have already been experienced by others. But he did mention that it would be natural for my mother to feel nausea - but that's OK "That means byetta is working and it will keep her from eating..."

Guess what? I looked up the common symptoms of byetta and the danger signs. Nausea is a danger sign of byetta causing pancreatitis. I'm upset now. There are so many drugs to track that I didn't know what to think of this "byetta" at first. Now, I have to watch my mother like a hawk because this HMO wants to send her to an early grave? Or is it just ego getting in the way of good science?

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indevor — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:53:57 GMT

I am one of those people who get depressed if I cut down my carbs too low. I don't have to eat a lot of them but I do need to eat grains and sugars throughout the day. there have been studies that the brain needs sugars to get serotonin to it. And I am also diabetic. I am only taking cinnamon capsules for it now.

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Atkins4Life_203 — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:25:23 GMT

Don't let valid scientific research overshadow sensation grabbing headlines!

Byetta: In summary, the incretin mimetics have been shown to be effective in sustaining glycemic control together with gradual but continuous reductions in body weight and improvements in beta-cell function. In the case of exenatide, data are now available, showing that the efficacy persists for up to 3 years. Side effects are generally mild to moderate in severity. With exenatide, there is a noticeable increase in the number of reports of nausea, although these reports do seem to decrease over time.

www.medscape.com/.../571327

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Julieanne — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:10:10 GMT

If you want to watch a really (cynical) funny show about how the Australian government handles pharmaceutical drugs, download 'the Hollowmen" from www.abc.net.au/tv/hollowmen. It is about half an hour. Coincidentally, it is about diabetes!

This was shown on Oz TV last night ((Sept 16th), so I don't know how long it will be available online. Our government probably works differently to yours, but politics is politics - you will get the drift.

The Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme provides free and/or subsidised medicine. Enjoy!

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marlvs2sing_203 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:51:44 GMT

Has anyone every heard of Dr. Joe Prendergast? You can sign up for his weblogs that will help you know about the lastest research for people w/diabetes and cardiovascular disease. He says Byetta doesn't cause pancreatitis! He's an endocrinilogist! Byetta helped me both times I was taking it. My sugars are high now that I have no medical and can't afford to buy it outright. All it is is a GLP peptide (that is absent in those w/diabetes) in the hormonal cascade that begins with the thought of food. It slows the emptying of food thereby avoiding postprandial spikes in glucose. I would be willing to wager that those who died while on Byetta developed pancreatitis through some other means, which is entirely possible. Watch Dr. Joe's videos and learn the truth from a real pioneer in the treatment of diabetes and heart disease! I was better on Byetta and it did not make me sick!

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samurai — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:07:21 GMT

I feel HORRIBLE when I eliminate grains. For me, a wonderful breakfast is an egg fried in butter, a piece of wheat bread and a piece of fruit. For me, I like eating meat, veggies, fruit, and carbs throughout the day and it makes me feel great. The elimination of refined sugar is of course optimal, but if I get rid of all types of carbs then I am a train wreck.

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WillTrekkie — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:07:46 GMT

As long as people continue to over-eat and eat the high (bad) Glyciemic Index (GI) foods, diabetes will continue to rise. Unfortunately, for the under-educated, those on a fixed income or limited budget, and who percieve themselves as only having access to these types of high G.I. (bad carb) foods --mostly in the packaged, junk, fast, snack, candy, & refined & super-refined foods (all the high profit, all over the TV & media in ours and our kids faces, make you sick & kill you quickly food group; and, make you feel crappy, tired, and grow up w/ waek cartilage, ligaments, bones, and a body of mush --thanx to HFCS and bleached white sugars & flours!) --hence, we (the evil profit mongering, could care less about you or your offspring corporations driven only by profits) will continue to fuel the flames of disease and society's problems on the one end WHILE we (taxpayers, govt, Medicare/Medicaid & all health & disability insurance entities-for that matter, and overwhelmed hospitals, clincis, E.R.'s, and the healthcare system at large) will continue to fight the fire at the other end. Unfortunately, this system is unsustainable (just like the consumption of non-renewable energy sources, carbon & pollution emitting machinery of our current industrialized world) and the hospitals will simply NOT be able to handle the number of cases associated with the diseases & complications (diabetes, heart, PVD, cancer) that will be suffered by the astronomically high numbers of patients by the year 2050 - the approximate year in which it is predicted to be at critical mass and co-incidently the healthcare paying entities will go broke doing so. --All of which we are on a runaway head-on collision course --unless we turn this ship[ around, have a revolution in the food/nutrition/grocery, healthcare, behaviors, and reimbursement arenas. This is not speculation, this is fact and truth. Yours in search of true health, energy, and longevity, WT.

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Atkins4Life_203 — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:06:07 GMT

I was on Byetta for 2 years. I lost 50 lbs using it. It provides the no-hunger satiety of being in ketosis without having to diet. Eventually, when I found my way back to the life-saving, anti-inflammatory, diabetes controlling, ketogenic Atkins diet, I got blood glucose under control. I stopped taking Byetta because it requires you eat some carbs when taking it.

While it drug deaths makes sensational press, Byetta can be very helpful when metformin alone does not control blood glucose and you don't want to go in insulin, which would increase fat storage in those insulin resistant. Plus, when i started Byetta, it somehow affected the need for thyroid meds, which may have been unnecessary to begin with. I was able to stop thyroid meds and haven't needed any for over 2 years.

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indevor — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:53:18 GMT

I think eliminating sugars and grains to treat diabetes is good in theory, but whenever I severely limit them, I get depressed. On the net, I've read that a diet too low in carbs can make some people depressed if they are prone to depression. They have discovered sugars and starches are needed to get the serontonin thru to the brain. I am trying to still limit my carbs, but spread them out during the day, that seems to help. I am diabetic and I use cinnamon tablets and chromium occasionally to treat it. I know 90 to 110 is supposed to be normal, but I've noticed if my sugar gets below 120, I feel very fatigued and jittery. I am obese, could it be I need more sugar to run just like my big Buick needs more octane to run? (I know I'm not a car, but I wonder about the correlation)

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Julieanne — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:03:33 GMT

Dr Mercola consistently tells us 'eliminate grains'. But yet another report has come out recommending the Mediterranian diet, which is high in grains and cereals and low in meat and dairy products.

I have yet to see an actual study which tells us that eating dairy and meat is healthy. Where is the backup for this information? Plenty of studies say the opposite.

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Maurine1 — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:57:55 GMT

A week ago my doctor suggested I might want to try Byetta, as he was not satisfied with my A1C test results. (I have fought him off on the Lipitor.) He gave me a kit and a coupon he had for a free month's trial. I went home and researched it and immediately decided, "no way!" Why should I mess up my body, digestive system, have horrible side effects (I equate nausea with punishment in Hell)? I'm down to normal weight, a strong protein type, and TRY to do things right (age 69, diabetes for 22+ years) but my blood sugars still swing up too high, forcing me to nip it down with a unit or two of Humalog (exercise doesn't seem to do it). I keep working on how to get that leptin and ghrelin under control but body doesn't always cooperate. Stress from having an ever-present (mooching) stepson living with us for the last 18 years may be a factor. Overall I'm probably in better shape than many of the people I see around me, though.

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sonalmen — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:02:21 GMT

Easier said than done.How can I stop giving my husband his Prandin and Lantus when he is already blind, has had a triple bypass surgery, wears a pacemaker and has 7 stents on his chest?

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Rogway — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:11:30 GMT

The fda was warned not only about this one but remember advanta (?) an fda scientise voiced his concern and they said...out the door. He was dismissed. So we see, we already know about the fda.

Stress and inflammation are always present in, and have been linked to over 80% of all ailments.

Inner cleansing, enzymes, earthing, flora, eft, valarian and kepping your mind inside of your own mind. Wondering outside of yourself for too long might leed to chronic fatigue.

As always...just my theory.

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PPARGammaGirl — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:11:29 GMT

The Pied Piper of Amylin - how appropriate. This report conjures up visions of registered DIEticians rounding people with diabetes up at the top of a cliff and telling them the "cure" is at the bottom.
"Go on, jump!"

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david — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:33:06 GMT

There will always be a price to pay for trying to treat what is basically a dietry / lifestyle condition, with a strong, possibly toxic, chemical.