History Proves Many Doctors' Recommendations are Disasters

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KSVaughan2 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:47:12 GMT

Although the title theory is correct, I cannot tell you how much I disagree with all of the specifics. By the 1960s when Rene Dubos wrote, "Rethinking the Germ Theory" the idea that germs alone, most of which we have all the time, make us sick was surpassed with the idea that the constitution of the person interacts with the disease. If the immune system is low- basically the same idea as "imbalanced humors", the ecology of the body is upset and a strong bacteria or virus can do damage. If the concentration of the bacteria or viruses is high, as would be the case in a hospital, not washing hands is likely to infect patients who are immunologically compromised by illness, injury or the strain of childbirth. But excessive handwashing with antibacterial soaps is causing MRSA, since the less dangerous infectious bacteria which normally outcompete the MRSA are destroyed and those which remain are adapting to the antibiotics and antimicrobial substances. Medical personnel using mere soap and water is far less dangerous unless you are dealing with an occasional highly virulent situation.

As for bloodletting, it has been used in practically every traditional medical system known and can drop fevers, drain varicosities and lower blood pressure if used appropriately. Large amounts of blood are NOT necessary, just enough to stimulate the body's defenses to come to the injury. And it is not appropriate for people who are deficient as opposed to excessive, because it is too strong. The problem was indiscriminate bloodletting, with improper santiation and improper diagnosis applied to patients who were unsuitable subjects.

If you want to prove the thesis, which is valid, look to modern pharmaceuticals, or the idea that children need ear tubes for otitis, or the idea that women need estrogen postmenopausally or the idea that surpressing fevers except in infants or after poisoning is a good thing.

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Nitpicker — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:17:47 GMT

Semmelweis was right and persecuted. The Semmelweis Society gave their Clean Hands award to Peter Duesberg who contradicts the common belief that HIV causes AIDS. A criminal investigator supports Duesberg on the basis that his attackers are nasty and not rational. I'm confused about AIDS but I'm sure the orthodox position is badly wrong.

Duesberg has gone on to contradict the conventional view of cancer causation. I am convinced he is right that it is aneuploidy and not a few oncogenes. We should honor and support Duesberg.

Doctors are also giving bad advice about obesity and all its related illnesses.See the video of Gary Taubes talk last December at UC Berkeley, and read his book, "Good Calories, Bad Calories". The British edition is called "The Diet Delusion". Obesity is not due to sloth and gluttony. It is due to a high carbohydrate diet and high fructose corn syrup in particular. Fructose does not itself trigger insulin, which is necessary to add fat, but it is converted in the liver into triglicerides which are VLDLs and bad in excess.

Where can I read the supporting research for the Mercola nutritional typing system? I don't like just trusting doctors, even when they have the credentials of Dr. Mercola. Let's have evidence, please.

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Peter Moller — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:36:28 GMT

This item fails to point out the big reason why the USA has a much worse record on health care than other first world countries, and that is the shocking absence of universal medical care in the US. Some 30 million Americans have no medical coverage at all and most of the rest are beset by deductibles and limits on coverage that often discourage them from seeking medical help when they actually need it.

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Angelica_LA — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:37:28 GMT

Yes, I agree. I am looking for another family practice doctor because my present doctor, to whom I have been going since 1998, TWICE prescribed antibiotics to which I am allergic. It is in my medical file. The doctor didn't bother to look through my file to see if I was allergic to the antibiotic he wanted to prescribed, nor did he ask me whether I was allergic to anything.

I am wary of taking any kind of drugs because the documented side effects are seriously life threatening in most instances.

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CEM — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:58:50 GMT

I wonder how many centuries it will take them to realize that, not only is the germ theory behind disease correct, but so are the artificial pulsed electromagnetic and microwave fields we generate every day in the form of cell phone towers, wi-fi, power lines, and satellites...? Times like this I wish I lived in Germany or Sweden...

German Doctors Unite on RF Health Effects:

www.powerwatch.org.uk/.../20050722_bamberg.asp

Bioinitiative Report:

www.bioinitiative.org/.../index.htm

Attitudes to the Health Dangers of Non-Thermal EMFs:

www.powerwatch.org.uk/.../20080117_bevington_emfs.pdf

The Ecologist - The Gathering Brainstorm - Wi-Fi

www.avaate.org/article.php3

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Theresau — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:54:27 GMT

Bottom line is if docs are truly committed to making a patient healthy, you would think they would study all they could and look at the patient holistically rather than limit themselves to what they had learned in medical school and from big pharma afterward.

It's never made sense to me that most docs limit themselves as they do.

I had a cardiologist that wasn't even up to speed on pharmaceuticals - it took me a couple of years and a great deal of my own research to realize it. Along the way, I began to be treated by a holistic MD who found that I had a malabsorption issue. This resulted in my heart healing to normal...when I mentioned all of this to the cardiologist she wouldn't listen at all. I eventually found an article by the New England Journal which stated that a study confirmed that going off gluten could "cure" cardiomyopathy (gluten had been the key reason for the malabsorption) and faxed it to her - she never bothered to even study that.

It took me add'l years to find a cardiologist that was at all up to speed even with the New England Journal.

This cardiologist even gave seminars in our city - much of what she presented was not up to date.

I'll never believe that she really cared to get her patients well. I have to believe that she was lazy and this was just another job..

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wolfe_203 — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:07:14 GMT

This is the first, and perhaps the only time that I will be posting a comment.

I am a 63 year old male, that has not gone to a Dr. in over 40 yrs., I have been my own Dr. since the early 60's, (Hippie days).

I am in perfect health, still have all my hair, it is still black, (perhaps a tiny bit of gray in it now, but very little),

I easily look like a person in their 30's, I am not just saying this, it is a FACT!

You don't know me, and will never meet me, so why do I have to fabricate the truth?

Bottom line is this:

Learn all you can about health care, I started very young about the age of 7, as my Mother was in nursing school, and I would always read her books that were left on the table.

Stay away from Doctors,

Stay away from prescription, and non-prescription drugs.

Try your best to not eat any foods that are from a publicly traded corporations.

(by local, and organic as much as possible)

Drink the best water you can, (I have a big routine in my water "making")

Do not drink soda, or take any --- ANY! --- form of artificial sweetener, (with the exception of Stevia, and Agave')

I don't like either one of those, but they are the only two I would recommend.

Don't rely on supplements too much, utilize food as much as possible.

the only supplements I take regularly are a cocktail I have been using for yrs,

WAY before it became popular!

it is the combination of Co-Q-10, A.L.A., and Acetyl-L-Carnitine.

The following I do also use, but not daily, perhaps 3 X's a wk.

Spiirulina, and Chlorrlella,

Ceylon Cinnamon,

Powdered C-salts I take the C-salts with 2500 mg. of L-Lycine also,

B-6 ,B-12, and Folic acid (sublingual)

and Coral Calcium.

Sorry this was so lengthy, but this will be my one and only post.

Stay Healthy, Stay pure, Love Nature,

Hail Satan!

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Grev — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:47:22 GMT

I currently work as a pharmacy technician and have worked in several hospitals in my almost 20 years of being a tech. I realize that there are many good physicians but on the flip side there are also physicians that I wonder how they ever made it through med school-I guess they were good at memorizing or something. I observe the pharmacists that I work with CONSTANTLY calling physicians to clarify doses, to clarify if the proper med is being prescribed or even "why" something is prescribed. Believe me, without this "backing up" from the pharmacists, there would be many more patients suffering unneedless side affects or possible even dying from physician errors-not to mention the nosocomal infections in the hospitals! I guess the point that I really want to make is just become savvy when it comes to your health. Don't just "hope" that all health professionals have your best interest at heart and are doing it with 100% accuracy-yes, even physicians can be honestly wrong. Read and question. If the physician is going to throw a tantrum because you dare to question, as I've seen happen several times, then maybe that physican should be given a time out while you go and look for another physician that has matured.Ultimately, you live with any consequences of any action taken by a physician or anybody for that matter. Do you think that the medical community is going to worry about you if something happens? I can attest that they won't.

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Juner — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:03:09 GMT

My comment is that all doctors are practicing. Another comment is that medicine & surgery are not always the answer. With all that the doctors are prescribing I am beginning to wonder if they are in with the pharmaceutical companies (or else forced by them) to prescribe many prescriptions. My husband got a prescription from his Dr. for high blood pressure. He never got it filled because it was not out of range that much. At his next Dr. appointment the Dr. said his blood pressure was fine now so to continue doing what he had been doing. Why don't we do what we can to help ourselves? Can we eat more healthy? Can we walk at least a little bit. Can we try more natural ways to keep healthy with professional massage, drink more water, or even look up a good chiropractor?

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libbyejansen — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:45:52 GMT

to INKY DINKY

I'm not quite sure what your question is but yes I've had an SI injury, from a work acident, and the workers comp. Dr. misdiagnosed it. that is on the paperwork anyway, I suspect it was deliberate to keep me from suing my employer. I had to have my SI put back in place 7 times before it stayed put. they did tell me what it actually was but the paper work listed back strain/sprain. I 1st tried a chiropracter but after 6 tries tried another method that was recomend by the original Dr, this time it stayed put and also had cortisone injection. the injection hurt! but did seem to help a little but I was also told that I would have problems the rest of my life.

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k.is.clayton — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:17:49 GMT

If your at all interested in this, im sure you would greatly appreciated a movie called Psychiatry - Industry of Death, available on mudutu.com, here is the URL link:

Psychiatry - Industry of Death

http://www.mudutu.com/node/241

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rahimick5 — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:07:56 GMT

As always, bloodletting is attacked as old quackery from the dark ages. Is this true? It was not just the Greeks who used it. It has been used universally - the Egyptians, the Chinese, Native Americans, Africans, Arab Physicians - all used different forms of blood letting. I am an acupuncturist and I can tell you first hand that it is one of the most elegant and powerful treatments available IF (and this is a big IF) the practitioner using it knows what they are doing. The problem with the European tradition of bloodletting was that they were (big surprise) extreme in their application of if. Yes, George Washington died due in large part to being OVER blood let. I believe that they drained a couple of liters of blood from him when was already sick. It's no wonder he died. In Chinese medicine and acupuncture, bloodletting usually consists of a few drops or milliliters being removed from specific points/areas. I have seen marvelous results with bloodletting where other methods failed to produce any change. I don't hesitate to use it myself if it is called for. QUIT BADMOUTHING BLOODLETTING. If used responsibly, it is one of the most powerful cures available.

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Rett — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:05:06 GMT

As I read stuff like this, I am always outraged by the fact that I can get whatever prescription my doctor would suggest I need from a military post/base pharmacy and it will cost me nothing. I only pay $12 for a doctor visit. My husband is retired military and TriCare Prime will pay their going rate to doctors and hospitals that are on their list as TriCare providers. To my knowledge, there are no alternative, naturopathic, holistic doctors on that list. If I went to one of those doctors, my insurance company says I am on my own. Plus the fact that I have not been able to find one of those doctors anywhere near where I live. And even if I did find one, I couldn't afford to see him/her, let alone pay for whatever natural therapies they would consider necessary for my health concerns. Right after the attack on the WTC, I started having an excruciating pain in my back that went into my left arm. I took OTCs to relieve the pain to no avail so I went to a walk in clinic on a Friday. I walked out of that clinic with three prescriptions. One was Vioxx. At 2am on Monday morning I was in an ambulance on the way to the ER. I was told at the ER I had type 2 diabetes and I had a mild heart attack. The ER doc called one of his cardiology buds about my case and I was taken by ambulance to a medical center in AL. A heart catherization was done and three arteries were blocked. Triple bypass followed. I left the mc with zocor, low dose aspirin, insulin and syringes, altace, tiezac, and a blood thinner. I was over whelmed and later outraged that I was expected to sit hours on end waiting to see my doctor so he could prescribe more stuff like Glucovance and Methotrexate and Paxil. I started educating myself and soon learned that doctors did not appreciate my enthusiasm to be responsible for my own health and well being. Oh well. I really believe if I had stayed in that trap I would be dead now. Hugs from Florida

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PureEvil — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:00:15 GMT

Great and informative article thanks again for informing.

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B12 — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:12:54 GMT

I'd love to be able to control my blood pressure without drugs, but it seems that my kidneys won't function satisfactorily if I don't keep the b.p. down to 120 or below, so I take 4 different pills each day. I'd welcome any comments re alternatives to what I'm doing. I'd do marathon training like Dr. Mercola does if it would normalize my blood pressure without drugs. At 70 though, I'm afraid of strokes and heart attacks but I would sure like to give the pharmaceutical companies a run for their money. Do I go for it?