Organic Produce Will Soon Be Cheaper Than Conventional Produce

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TiaIsWorried — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:20:13 GMT

Sadly, the "savings" will only last until the major food processors start buying the organic, to mutilate it into the convenience foods so many use.

American's can't cook from scratch anymore, heck, can't cook at all unless you rip open the bag and plop it on a microwave plate.

Thank god, I was raised "poor" and entered adulthood during the 80s recession. Poor, I know how to do.

I look to my neighbors, who are sick, fat & convinced that pre-packaged is "easy".

There is a huge reckoning coming for many of us. I am just really thankful that I know how to get by. What scares me is those that have not the foggiest idea as to how to make do.

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JayPatrick — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:10:01 GMT

As a student of current economics, I just don't see any liklihood that organic foods will be selling for lower prices regardless of the increasing costs of oil-based farming. Supply and demand will make all food increasingly more expensive. So please don't hold your breath as you wait for organic foods to become less expensive than they are today. It will never happen! The toxic foods will eventually cost more than the organic, but all food will be increasingly expensive (in my humble opinion).

Speaking of economics, inflation has already driven the costs of all foods through the roof. And we ain't seen nothin' yet.

If and when congress authorizes the creation of $700 billion our of thin air, the inflation rate is going to go through the roof! The falling dollar will also send the cost (for Americans) to heights that may well leave our sick, weak, and elderly poor literally starving and/or homeless.

Certainly the value of our eating locally grown organic foods is immense. We should have been developing this years ago. I suppose most of you know that decades ago Cuba lost access to cheap oil and the people had to go organic or die. They've gone very will with it, indeed! www.gardeners.com/.../content.asp

www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php

And many more, but remember, we aren't yet accustomed to the 3rd world lifestyle of self-reliance like the Cubans have been. We can learn a lot from them and be inspired by them. But there's going to a lot more to it than just running over to the organic farmer's market to enjoy lower priced, locally grown foods.

The topic is spot-on, but the slant may be tending toward fantasmagorical. Patrick Hickey, Sedona, Arizona

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charmela — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:04:04 GMT

It makes sense organics should go cheaper, and I hope they do. We have a farmer's market downtown every Saturday morning, here. The prices are not too hard to take, and they are direct from local farmers, and not the commercialized, overly-pesticided, overly-fertilized with gross stuff produce. We have a fair selection of organic farmers, and they label their food as such. What really burns me up are the rBST dairy products that do not need labels to inform the public what they are buying. I never buy corn, any longer, which most or all are genetically modified on the store shelves. I only prepare bell peppers that come from family gardens or organic farmers. I cannot digest, easily, a lot of these things at the grocery store any longer. It is amazing how much different organically grown crops are from the mainstream produce at the grocer.

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JAKMVX — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:08:04 GMT

No need to worry about the super collider. As it turns out, they are having start up problems. Beyond that, the ramp up time for getting to the very powerful atomic collisions is quite lengthy, three to four years in fact. Maybe 2012, Hmmm.

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Karel — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:54:32 GMT

Well, if oil will become scarcer and prices rise, markets will begin to favor organic farming. But, what if we start to use hydrogen, compressed air or cheaper new generation solar power on cars as fuel, then we will not need oil, demand for oil will decrease and its price will go down. Then, we will have environmentally friendly cars, but the fertilizer producers will have cheap oil to produce much cheaper fertilizers on the other hand. And, we might face even cheaper non-organic crops... Every positive development may have something negative in it, and vice versa...

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curious7 — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:27:03 GMT

Once upon a time those of us who sought pruity in our food were seen as a bunch of "Hippie" types. Now though the world is coming over to the side of understanding that what you put into your body can make you or break you.

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JoshandSarahsMom — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:58:21 GMT

I have noticed this lately at the grocery store, and I have to say, it has made me feel much better about all that "extra" money I've been paying on organic food, grass-fed beef, and naturally raised chicken. The price of "regular" meat and dairy has gone up and up, while it has mostly stayed the same for organic. Now it is not only healthier, but soon will be even more cost-effective to eat better foods. You're right, Dr. Mercola, this is a silver lining in an otherwise dark cloud.

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ExJohnson — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:45:00 GMT

We have been taught in this country for a long time that the consumer is always right, that convienence always wins, and they wouldn't make it if we didn't buy it. All I mean to say is that consumption has lost all value as a discipline. My sister scoffed at me when I mentioned I make my own cheese. "Why don't you just buy it?" For the same reason I grind my own wheat, never buy white rice, and earnestly try to support local farmers, even conventional ones seem better than Mexican or California raised organics. Food and life are joys, but also works that require discipline. That is what is scoffed at in our culture. And the $6.99/lb asparagus made me laugh. It really only comes in season (if grown traditionally) for about three weeks during the year. It is the ultimate 'seasonal' variety, and it won't be long before all our front lawns start resembling little farms. In WWII it was a patriotic necessity to grow supplements to your food pantry, and sheep still grazed the White House lawn. I've been obnoxiously saying it for five years now, "Money's fine, but you can't eat it." When life is disciplined to include your food, your joys, and your family, stress about the stock market seem silly.

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BethProverbs31 — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:19:30 GMT

I agree with Lori. I cannot see the prices of organic going down lower than the pre-processed, over-processed, tainted food that is unfortunately the only stuff a lot of folks can afford. I would LOVE to be able to purchase everything organic, but I am unemployed at the moment and my husband is working two jobs and I still have to watch my budget for 3 of us big time. I buy organic milk every grocery store trip, and pay the same for a half gallon of that than a whole gallon is of the conventional stuff! Other than that, I don't have much in the budget for 5.99 a pound for organic green peppers when they are 1.99 a pound for conventional. We have a Whole Foods Market here, but it is a 45 minute trip from us, so my choices as far as organic most times are local Giant Eagle stores that have a Nature's Basket section. A bottle of organic juice is at least 4 or 5$ as opposed to 2 or 3$ for conventional. Same with canned veggies and sauces, etc. etc. The only thing that I found that is affordable is bulk organic grains. You can only make so many things with grains. We live in an area where there is farm land, but none of them grow consumable crops because they can't afford it. They are growing mostly animal feed. So what's a woman in my situation to do? I buy fresh veggies as much as I can, but they are conventional store-bought. I try to buy meats from the butcher counter instead of the packaged stuff, but even that can be more expensive than pre-packaged. I try to make my meals as healthy as possible using extra-virgin olive oil and fresh Amish butter and baking, boiling, steaming or sauteeing as opposed to frying. Anyone have any healthy money-saving tips????

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LoriSmi — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:00:20 GMT

The only problem is that the organic stuff is already over-priced, then the GMO foods will go higher, but we will ALL be paying out the nose for ALL produce, organic or not! This will not make food any cheaper for the people (masses), it will just mean that people will have to budget for fresh foods when they want them!

A few years ago I was in a Wild Oats store and their "fresh in season organic" asparagus was $6.99 a pound YIKES! It sold at the time for $2.99 a pound at store, and on sale for $1.49. Who could afford the $6.99 a pound??? Not me!!! With ten of us at home at the time (8 kids) there was NO WAY I was paying $7 a pound for asparagus! No matter how "organic".

Same goes for other foods. I am NOT paying triple and quadruple the price. I can't afford to, period.

We grow some of our veggies, I can what I am able, and we buy high-quality meats. I try to buy high-quality fruits and veggies, but I will NOT pay the over-inflated prices of organic. I wash the regular veggies very well and we eat them. Many of them com from farmers in the summer and are not as costly as the "organic" foods in the store.

There are only 4 of us at home now, but my food bill is still over $800 a month! (I stock up on foods, too.) I am very picky about what I buy (absolutely NO meats in vacuum sealed white plastic packages that are sprayed with gas!!!) and try to buy "Natural" meats at all times, but I watch for the sales and do not pay full prices.

Food has gone sky high and I am buying many more "bent and dented" cans to add to the pantry (40% off regular retail) so that we will have foods to eat when we cannot afford to shop.

Bad times are on their way and it is important to be stocked up.

I have canned a lot of foods this year, including meats.

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chubby — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:17:25 GMT

QUALITY OF THE FOOD IS THE DECIDING FACTOR --- and it requires some tough decision making when you are on a fixed income --- we buy range fed beef --- a box of quarter pound patties for about $ 20 bucks ---- and stretch them out with other proteins like kidney bean salad --- homemade gluten free bread --- range free eggs --- nuts ---- along with significant nutritional supplements like stabilized rice bran --- macca root powder --- fresh ground flaxseed --- etc --- local grown and organic produce --- and every trip in the honda civic is carefully decided upon by number of miles x 35 MPG x $ 4.00 per gallon of gas --- no more driving to the store for this item or that --- one or 2 trips a week of combined errands ---- WITH ONGOING DEVALUATION OF THE DOLLAR ( your government stealing from you ) --- its the SURVIVAL MODE BABY CHUBBY

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pinkskittles — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:04:40 GMT

well wouldn't that be nice! then again, if we think about the cost of oil and gas and all that, i'm sure that would affect organic produce too, wouldn't it? especially small farmers that have to drive 2 to 3 hours to come to markets?

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Dekalb — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:33:00 GMT

Poetic justice...
...but what is oil seed rape? Sounds criminal!

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rablpn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:41:24 GMT

And instead of organically grown cereal, how about locally raised grass-fed meat. That requires the least amount of energy input and is far healthier for most people than grain.