Are You Becoming a Boiled Frog?

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kj blue — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:20:58 GMT

After much reading of my own health issues, and many years of "life experience" I concluded that most of my issues were diet related, something I was eating was causing the arthritis and other pain. The ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 I learned in Jack Challems book "The Inflammation Syndrome" and Loren Cordain, PH.D. "The Paleo Diet" , is the stuff that turned on the "light bulb" for me. What I changed is no; dairy, grains, sugar, legumes, etc; and started a diet of more green leafy vegetables, fruits, tree nuts, selective animal protien, etc; I have been on this diet about 6-7 months and the arthritis pain is gone everythink about my overall quality of health and life has improved. The thing that kickstarted the whole change is my 83 year old Prolothearpist/cardiologst, who is sadly retiring. Thanks for the forum.

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northernherbalist — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:30:52 GMT

Skyblupink, Sorry, I don't know of any cheap land for sale in VT--maybe 10 years ago. It's still probably a lot cheaper than most parts of the country though. Also, good-paying jobs are pretty scarce up here in the Northeast Kingdom, but the herbs and wild weeds are plentiful. VT is in the forefront of the "buy locally" movement and more and more farmers are going organic. I can't afford a lot of the local products, but there are still tiny farm stands in front of people's houses where you can get super-fresh corn, beets, carrots, squash, beans and tomatoes at a very reasonable price. Most of them just have little wood boxes to leave your money in, and they work on the "honor" system. There are also wild berries growing everywhere and at this time of year, apple trees on abandoned land--yours for the taking! If you know which plants are edible or medicinal (most are both), the low pay can be somewhat compensated by all the free food. I make my own St. John'swort oil and extract, valerian extract, and many more of my own medicines to get through the winter and don't rely on doctors much at all anymore. Good luck to you.

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OS — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:32:03 GMT

Instantkarma: I am interested in what you are doing and the sites you may use to help beat your MS. I too have a friend I am trying to help, yet I am having a difficult time finding good information that would be helpful. I am leaving my email in hopes that you will contact me so I can get your help. OS

tlctms7@yahoo.com

Many Thanks.

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stop the bullies — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:40:36 GMT

According to the Zogby Poll on Workplace Bullying (or mobbing) 37% of us have been affected. We're talking about malicious and sustained targeting of an employee for expulsion or mistreatment. Now there is a new website for help if you live in Washington State: stopthebullies.home.comcast.net and there is another new email address for private sector employees: stopthebullies@yahoo.com. This corrosive behavior is very health harming. Most people stay in their jobs until it is too late and they cannot work again. The original group: stopthebullies@comcast.net is still going strong.

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LoveManna — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:57:28 GMT

Dr. Rik,

You've got it right. No one wants to make any changes; they just want a magic pill.

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CCurtis — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:43:20 GMT

Dear carrieon:

It is not that simple to tell your employer to just give you the cash instead of insurance -- they will not comply. I even asked our union to try for a "cafeteria plan" whereby we could choose the benefits we need and will use up to a specified dollar amount and they said it would be "too difficult to implement and maintain." My employer gives full free medical benefits but I have to use their on-site medical services center (I work at a university) which do not include alternative care. This medical services center is the cause of almost all of my illnesses starting from the antibiotics they gave me like candy whenever I got a cold (I know now that it does not work for this) and pimples when in my 20s (I'm now 45). This progressed to ibd and colon issues which needed more medicine, and then autoimmune hemolytic anemia caused by the ibd medicine, and finally shingles, impetigo, catarracts, gallstones, weakened and deteriorating bones, muscles, joints, and weight gain caused by the prednisone for the anemia. I now use my health plan only as a consultant for tests and then make up my own mind about the treatment. Most times I tell the doctors "no" and do my own research online as to alternate solutions. I also refuse the vaccinations (flu, etc.) that they try to push on me each year. Unfortunately I'm one of those who just can't afford to pay out of pocket for a naturopath but I do my own research including reading Mercola.com. If I listened to the doctors, I would have had my spleen removed and would be on chemotherapy (no I do not have cancer) -- their solution to get me off the prednisone! I had to lose the gallbladder but I'm not giving up that spleen unless absolutely necessary! I'm reducing the prednisone now using alternative and natural solutions.

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CCurtis — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:26:59 GMT

Dr. Kim:

I tried clicking on your name but for some reason I cannot access yours (or anyone else's) profile in reference to the person who asked for your location/information. Can you post? Or perhaps Mercola.com can figure out the problem? I also cannot seem to access the "reply" link which does nothing when I click on it.

For those who have MS and are looking for possible solutions, I've been drinking this juice for 1.5 years and it's worked wonders for my problems (including autoimmune hemolytic anemia, ibd, complications from no gallbladder, etc.) and is helping me get off prednisone (finally) after 9 years on the poison. No, I do not have MS, but I do have a friend with MS and Scleroderma who drinks the same stuff and it works wonders for her. She can now eat and hold her food down and is back jogging when she was almost bedridden at one point. Anyone interested just email me at cpccat@hotmail.com and I'll give info.

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penwriml — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:50:56 GMT

LALA FAGAN WROTE: If EVERYONE only bought organic foods and refused to purchase hybrid seeds and over process dairy products..... NO ONE could sell them because they'd slowly be rotting on the shelves.

It's really all up to us as individuals. Wanna be mass fed...... eat the mass produced foods. Wanna be

healthy.... eat organic and grow organic. One step at a time, one person at a time.

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Good post LALA.

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penwriml — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:46:07 GMT

I agree with Spang's post with the exception of the profiteering part.

However, DR KATE, regardless of the cost/profits of chemotherapy and drug companies, the cost for assessments, supplements, etc for alternative/natural doctors/practitioners is out of reach of even most middle class americans.

We need to look closely at health care plans proposed by our government. If government is going to be involved in the health care business, perhaps coverage should include alternative therapies and perhaps even certain supplements. A premium should be placed on preventative healthcare as opposed to treatment of symptoms.

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Dr. Kim L.Ac D.Ac. — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:04:19 GMT

Julieanne,

While I hate to burst your bubble, the factory farming of pigs has actually made them more "unclean" and disease-ridden, tortured (their tails are snipped off with needle nose pliers type instruments, because they are under so much stress in their "living" conditions that they gnaw each other's tails, and are so apathetic, they won't try to stop another pig from gnawing their own tails), they are fed a corn and soy based diet (because they need to do something with the excess corn and soy that isn't used to manufacture processed "food"), are pumped full of antibiotics and growth hormones, and the list goes on. I'm not sure where you are getting your data, but you are fooling yourself. Google "Factory Pig Farms" and see what comes up. I also believe Natural News website archive has at least one article about this.

Respectfully, Dr. Kim

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carrieon — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:47:14 GMT

Anyone still using health insurance is like the frog swimming around in boiling water. Come on people. If you don't agree with conventional medicine, why are you still using it? Tell your employer to stop paying for it and give you the money. This should put about another $1,000 per month in your budget for personal healthcare. By the way, the IRS allows tax deductions for expenditures on alternative medicine.

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CPA Al — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:34:00 GMT

While the point may be good, the boiled frog story is not true. If you slowly try to boil a frog it will not boil to death without feeling the pain.

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ChickenFarmer — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:14:45 GMT

My health is my responsibility. It does not belong to any one else. I spend a lot of money each year going to see a M.D. who does not take insurance, and I buy several thousand dollars of natural medicines not covered by insurance. Her medical knowledge and her recommended natural medicines saved my life a while back, and conventional medicine had no plan other than to do a liver transplant. I have never spent more on "holistic medicine than I would have spend on insurance premiums if I had insurance. Not only do I rely on natural medicine, I also rely on my the food I eat for good health. I have found that the healthiest food I can eat is mostly grown by me. We are on track to next year produce/grow/harvest a complete diet. We will be much closer when our young goats freshen and they give us our dairy needs. We raise our own grass fed meats and eggs now as well as our veggies. We grind grains into flour and corn meal for all of our breads. Our new goal is to raise all the feed stock for producing our own ethanol for meeting all our of fuel needs for transportation. The byproducts of the ethanol production will in turn give us more animal feed for growing a few for income. Folks, your health is your personal responsibility and the food you grow can be the best food you eat. You can grow some of your food if you have a sunny window sill. Growing sprouts is a great way to start raising your own food. Folks, your health is your personal responsibility and the food you grow can be the best food you eat. You can grow some of your food if you have a sunny window sill. Sprouts is a great way to start raising your own food. I assume that applies to animal health, also applies to human health. If the food is very healthy and has the perfect mix of minerals and vitamins, then animal which eat that food will be in perfect health too. It all starts with the soil, if the soil is healthy, and the right plants are on it, then the animals will be health too.

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jimmylad — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:54:24 GMT

i was born in New Zealand and now live in Australia. Both countries have governament paid health care. Having seen and heard about the medical system in America, i actually feel sorry for you. I do not understand the logic in fighting an insurance company when you are seriously sick to get medical help, a basic right as a human being. all operations, hospital care, cancer treatment, bloods etc. etc. are all free. so, because of this, we do not stress about a basic right, and hense are healthier.

I do in-fact live in the fattest country, and so this country has alot to learn about itself. most homes have large back yards big enough for vege gardens, yet most will have nothing at all in them. I do believe that a healthy mind goes hand-in-hand with a healthy lifestyle of eating. if you freed your mind from fears, limiting decisions and beliefs, your life would be sooo much better. NLP and EFT are great models for freeing your mind. there is soo much information about eating healthy. just start by giving it a go and find what works for you and your budget. you can start as small as growing veges in pots if you do not have space for a garden. And i wish you all a happy healthy life. xxxx

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Lala Fagan — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:36:22 GMT

Good going Jewell!

If EVERYONE only bought organic foods and refused to purchase hybrid seeds and over process dairy products..... NO ONE could sell them because they'd slowly be rotting on the shelves.

It's really all up to us as individuals. Wanna be mass fed...... eat the mass produced foods. Wanna be

healthy.... eat organic and grow organic. One step at a time, one person at a time.