Gardasil is Dangerous As Well As Unproven

re: Gardasil is Dangerous As Well As Unproven

Heather Marsh — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:00:59 GMT

My daughter was very interested in Gardisil- until I gave her some very basic information, similar to what has been provided here.

Last week she went to see a doctor about a sinus problem- and the docor tried to persuade her to have the shot.

She told him 'No thank you'

He was somewhat taken aback - and asked why she would not have a simple injection which could save her from cancer.

Her response? It is not a vaccine against cancer- it is only useful against a few HPVs, and has caused some very nasty reactions in a great many women and girls. I have only been with one male and I am married to him. I hope to become a mother one day- and I do not wish to jeopardise that or my future children's health.

Thank goodness for the internet - she was able to access that information, and understood that the possible benefits were negligible- and the risks great.

There is now one very confused doctor possibly 'googling' for information about recorded adverse reactions.

I can only hope that her response was firm enough that he will research Gardisil more thoroughly before recommending it again.

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curious7 — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:52:00 GMT

People are strange creatures, instead of taking the time to take care of our selves, find out the whys of infections, and the means of prevention we just in too many numbers follow what ever Big Pharma, places before us. If you are over weight, there is a pill, if you have a headache, there is a pill, and if the pill for the headache gives you an ulcer, we have a pill for that as well. Now if the ulcer "medcine" upsets your stomach, why we have a pill for that too. And so on, and so on.

With many people Big Pharma is giving many of us permission to be irresponsible, or immoral. If you want multiple sex partners, we have birth control pills, to prevent pregnancy, if you pick up a disease along the way we can give you a shot, for STDs, and now Gardasil. At some point our society has to take responsibility for it's own actions. For instance multiple sex partners was never the design for mankind, "Fornication" is a sin against the body. It does not get any clearer than that.

As parents we do our best to teach our children moral values, but I have to tell you we are up against some very big obstacles. Peer pressure, and then there is the media, which says quite the opposite of what we as parents attempt to teach our children. So Big Pharma counts on this, and some dangerous garbage like Gardasil is the result.

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deamarie — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:35:42 GMT

Does anyone have any info on Menactra?

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AuntieEmm — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:22:00 GMT

How I understand it is that until a girl is older (18+) their immunine system cannot fight off some things such as worts, HPV, ect. and so therefore HPV poses a greater risk, hence the age group I'm assuming for the vacine. Not to bash Dr. Mercola, but I don't remember Mercola ever mentioning this in his articles? I could be wrong since I do not read every article of his but I just don't remember that. So I can say to my daughter as I have many times, "not having sex can protect you from such things," But even if she chooses to, her body just may not be able to fight it off. So do we vacinate then or not? Personal choice I think and ALL the information should be presented. Not just the cons as to why we shouldn't. This has been a personal struggle for me as I'm not to one extreme or another. So before anyone gets offended by my comment I'd like to say....I read Dr. Mercola's info, get this emails because I want to take steps to live a healthier life but I'm not an extremist either.

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Scard by Big Pharm — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:10:55 GMT

Parents "feel" they are doing the right thing for their children because this generation of parents are the leaders in mulitple partners, no morals, bed hopping, free sex, friends with benefits, etc.

No one wants to address the moral issues here because we as a generation are guilty of "teaching" our children the "new rules for sex". Don't question, just be "safe".

Not to be on the soapbox but we need to take a step back and rethink what we are teaching our children through our actions, our tv shows, movies etc. We have become a morally bankrupt nation. It is sad.

Although I agree that the HPV/cancer tie in isn't as bad as the ol' Gardasil folks want us to believe, we still should use this as a wake up call!

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GAJP — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:32:12 GMT

all this information about Gardasil is very interesting, but in the UK we have a different vaccine, would it be possible to have the facts on Cerviaex (or something with a similar name). because when we point out the problems with Gardasil we are patronisingly told "but our vaccine is different" not that i think it makes much odds who makes it. thanks

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jane engstrom — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:05:42 GMT

What is the relationship between intercourse and cervical cancer? Noone ever mentions the male role in this scenario?

Do women who do not have intercourse with men NOT become victims of cervical cancer?

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bjmn — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:03:43 GMT

I was diagnosed CIN III in 2003. I went to my naturalpath and she said that research from Oregan was linking cervical cancer to a virus (HPV) and that a well-supported immune system (folic acid, and other nutrients, vegetarian diet) demonstrated that the virus was kept in check. I told this to my planned parenthood doctor and she gaffawed me right out of the office, since she could not believe that it was at all possible that a virus (HPV) could be a cause of cervical cancer and that the immune system well supported with nutrition was able to keep cancer at bay. Needless to say, it was not until Merck declared that HPV was a cause of cervical cancer and had a profiteering "preventative" in a vaccine in hand, did marketing to the public, and lobbying to congress make this come to the forefront of daily conversation. Mom's - make sure your daughters are getting their leafy greens (folic acid) and other nutrients in fruits and vegetables. I also heard that inflammation (body's response to a threat like a virus) has been linked to cancers. So, having a vaccination, and introducing the body to new invaders to the cervical area is likely to lead to inflammation of the cervix, which may lead to cancer. . . so HPV vaccination may become a CAUSE of cervical cancer.

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Luna 51 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:20:49 GMT

First I appologise for my english it is not my language I normally speak.

About this virus some one told me , a midwife ,the main problem is men do not clean there sexual organ enough.Especially when they had no circumcision it is very important that parents learn there sons to take good care of there hygiene.I am not sure if this has anything to do with getting cerval cancer but perhaps it is interesting to have someone doing some research on this subject.

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ukbelle — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:18:07 GMT

Hi. Please have a look at this site:

http://www.inlieswetrust.com/

There is a lot of info. on the subject.

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alphafem2002 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:16:55 GMT

my naturopath also told me that having a vaccine against something you already have won't remove the condition but will increase the symptoms, which could apply to some of the teenage girls.

Also, why is Big Pharma pushing only for girls to have this? Why vaccinate only half of the population and not those who carry it? I believe it's because they don't really want the condtion stopped; they just want to sell vaccines, then drugs for the illnesses that then ensue. Illnesses that only women would get - hmmm, sounds like a rights issue.

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stoic — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:30:50 GMT

FDA approval "should" mean immunity for pharma.....

http://tinyurl.com/3v4gpq

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WellnessMom — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:53:26 GMT

It absolutely makes me ill to see those Gardasil commercials on TV with the young girls and their mothers talking about how they are 'protecting' themselves by being vaccinated. This is misleading for other young girls and a way of scaring them into thinking they need the vaccine or they may die from cervical cancer. It is a very sad thing that the government has not yet acknowledged the link and I'm afraid it will be like just about everything else, they never will.

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stoic — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:07:33 GMT

this just came across...

I suppose we should be glad that the FDA recognized that it needed to change the way its advisory committees are set up at all. But the actual amendments they implemented seem more like a halfhearted attempt to appease the increasingly angry and suspicious public than they are about real change.

Last month, the agency announced that they would be imposing stricter limits on financial ties that members of its advisory committees may have with the companies involved in the decisions being made at the committee meetings. Apparently, they think capping the financial interest at $50,000 meets that "strict" criteria. According to the article I read, "If an advisor's personal financial interest is greater than $50,000, he or she won't be allowed to participate in the meeting. If the financial interest is less than $50,000, the FDA may grant a waiver…"

I don't know about you, but if I had $50,000 at stake in something, my judgment might be a bit clouded. But, then again, for a profit-mongering organization like the FDA, 50 grand is little more than pocket change, so it makes sense that they wouldn't see that level of potential profit as a conflict of interest.

Or maybe -- and this is the thought that still sends shivers down my spine -- they just don't care.

Yours in good health,

Amanda Ross
Editor
Nutrition & Healing

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Dr. Donna Stackpool — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:34:22 GMT

When will it end?
I am happy there are other people besides me who see a bigger picture as to what is going on in our society. Between the food industry, big pharma and our government I have recently felt or questioned, is there a conspiracy to make us, and our children sick? I too, worry about what are these children going to do as adults. A sick, disabled nation cannot fight, nor even run. Where would this country be if in 1775, the colonists were too sickly to fight for independence? How do we ban together as a nation to make these changes? I do not think we can depend upon our government.