This Pain Relief is 8 Times More Effective Than Morphine

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clintcoolbreeze — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:19:15 GMT

I'm disappointed that opiod use seems to be damned as much here as at DEA. Very few treatments are an "unmitigated" good. I have had CRPS since 2006, and the fact that narcotics occasionally supply some euphoria is a plus for me. Try being in moderate-to-severe pain for three years, and then explain to this patient-group how undesirable "false" joy is. The worst side effects in my experience have been from the Federally mandated NSAIDS in my meds- and NSAIDS are essentially useless for CRPS. I was also prescribed Vioxx a few years ago, post-surgically. Fortunately I rebelled at the $3/tab price, and took aspirin instead. Virtually all narcotics are old-line (cheap) drugs, so of course anything new is "better." And no, I don't feel guilty because some weak-willed loser takes the identical substance for fun: I guarantee he won't getting mine.

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firsttouchhealth — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:52:51 GMT

Hi,

With respect to having more GLA in Borage Oil. There are studies that show that Borage Oil increases blood platelet aggregation or stickiness. Whereas GLA from the evening primrose source does not.

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Robert Dale Williams — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:39:25 GMT

Hey! In March '007, I suffered a "traumatic brachial plexus injury", from which I'm currently recovering, thank you. The peripheral neuropathic pain is the relevant aspect of my case, and I'm here to describe what has worked for me. Having experienced unacceptable side effects w/neurontin, I was able to get 'script'n for Lyrica, which was OK, but still only brought my 8-to-10 pain-scale ratings down to maybe 4-to-7. Not bad, but livable. But then I got wind of DLPA! WOW!! (Shout with me!) WOW! This stuff is for real! My current pain regimen uses DLPA 500mg X 2, thrice daily, each (1g) dose accompanied by one 100mg capsule of Lyrica. THAT'S IT! And I occaisionally forget my afternoon or late-night dose. I have also been able to re-grow the nerves which were strangled in the first place, dosing with sub-lingual Methylcobalamin (2 X 5000mcg lozenges) and administering electrical stimulation via a devise called "The Rebuilder".

Hypothetically, my problems arose because of absolutely atrocious ergonomics at my home computer work station, causing, in particular, long-term (4 to 5 weeks) cramping of the muscles of my right shoulder, upper back and right-side of my neck. Specifically, spasm of the middle scalene muscle caused a constriction of the inter-scalene gap (also known as the throracic outlet), partially compressing the C5 nerve root and shutting down axonal transport of nutrients to some motor nerves and some sensory nerves. I have re-innervated the wrist and finger flexor muscles and the supinator, though I have suffered some atrophy, some tendon contractures, and prob'ly adhesions in the shoulder from a protracted period of disuse, though I've had great support and encouragement from my PT and my OT. I also learned a lot at the UBPN (United Brachial Plexus Network) Forum Boards. Pain concerns take a high priority among brachial plexus injured folf.

Thanks for your att'n.

willi@gorge.net (Col.River Gorge)WA

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doc_203 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:56:26 GMT

Homeopathy has a long list of medicines that relieve pain or cure the cause. The best known is Arnica. Arnica is good for any physical trauma. Sore or pulled muscles. Take Arnica 30 before surgery and Arnica 200 after surgery and you probably won't need any other pain killers. The Arnica can be repeated as needed.

Hypericum (St. Johns wort) is fast acting for nerve damage, example -- closing a door on the fingers.

Arsenicum Album is most often called for to relieve cancer pain, esp. pancreatic cancer pain. It is also often used in end of life pain. Other end of life medicines are Aconite for those who fear death -- either their own or fear their loved one's death. Carbo Veg is for oxygen starvation.

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ExJohnson — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:45:43 GMT

I think this is a positive step. Pain is a very difficult subject, and having Crohns disease, I know first hand how incredibly freeing it can be to feel pain relief. I am a very fortunate personality in that the drowsiness always made me take as little pain killers as was necessary, but as my cousin says, you only live once, why do it in pain. To me, the most significant item is not whether someone will take advantage of it ("the poor you will always have with you...") be it through dependence or BPharma making $$$, but whether it is used as a tool, and not a solution. We can never understand someone else's pain fully, so we can't judge them for wanting relief. But we can try to be responsible to our loved ones by making sure that pain suppression is not the goal, but a step towards the overall goal of good health. Chemical pain management has it's place today as progress (a child who fractures his/her leg should be given a pain killer, a cancer patient, surgery candidates, etc.), check out the scene from "Glory" the Civil War movie as a good example. As in all my rants, I have to include ethics, and I think good ethics has room for allowing someone respite from pain. I know pain relief for me lead to more sleep, more healing time, and a faster recovery. WHo doesn't want that?

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gaiasfire — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:39:48 GMT

Pukatea is a New Zealand native plant that has been used in traditional maori medicine, and is now being used by herbalists in new zealand as a very effect analgesic. it has morphine-like numbing properties with out the side effects. it is a powerful and effective plant that often works where pharmaceuticals have failed to bring any relief. it is also a mid sedative with dopamine like actions.

Other good herbs for pain management are Jamaican Dogwood, Licorice (antiinflammatory), willow bark and kava.

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marisa-sunlight — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:19:48 GMT

Another thing I forgot to mention: I took the full top dosage and i'm rather small and thin, so i would take the dosages on the upper limits and above for a while, these herbs haven't the side effects of drugs, valerian may cause some drowsiness as it's primarily used for insomnia, but it's a great muscle relaxant and destresser.

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marisa-sunlight — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:03:13 GMT

ps Im of course painfree and no operation!!!

Marianne

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marisa-sunlight — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:02:04 GMT

Hi for all of you in pain,

I recently had very bad back pain and was told to get back surgery by 2 Dr.s I nearly did it as I couldn't walk for over 8 months. Agony. Severe painkillers aside I finally found the relief:

A great combination pill supersciaticarelief, I don't sell this but it did work for me - it contains boswellia aka frankinscence, valerian, bromelain, devils claw. Pancreatin is also helpful when taken away from food. this in combination with an acupressure pad that hurts for 5 mkinutesand then relieves pain, this may take a while, I had to do it for 3 weeks 24/7, even though the article says only 20 minutes. But stick wiht it and you'll be helped. this works on muscle nad lligament injuries, the herbs will work for internal pains and arthritis too. One needs to avoid pian creating situations: stress, foods, coffe etc, that are inflammatory. And eat foods that are anti inflammatory eg fatty fish, nuts ,seeds, turmeric, garlic....

The acupressure pad cost me 15 Uk Pound and is available from easycure.org in England, more expensive versions are available but here's the best price.

Kind regards,

Marianne

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Joshua J — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:58:59 GMT

This may be helpful for pain reduction but ATP is very important for cellular function as it is used as the primary energy source for all cellular activities. I wonder how they keep it controlled enough to not prevent your body from doing its required day to day routine.

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Running_Stick — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:14:24 GMT

Is this Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) the same ATP as the energy currency of the cell? Suppression results in cell disfunction. Does this new drug only target nerve cells? Extracellular ATP?

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Islander — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:07:59 GMT

When palliative care is all that can be offered to the dying, pain relief like this is a huge advantage.

But pain is a signal that something in the body is amiss. It seems to me that to mask the symptom without addressing the cause is irresponsible and could potentially lead to more harm. Think, for example, of athletes playing through an injury.

It seems that anything with advantages comes with the option for abuse. I'll bet that's what Kelly Eidem meant the other day! Kelly, are you there? Yes, I can relate now!

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bmc — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:38:38 GMT

First, they won't know all the side effects until it goes on the market.
Second, this pill, like all other pain killers just masks the pain instead of correcting the cause.

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stoic — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:16:24 GMT

this probably will not live up to initial optimism - but if it does, that would be an unmitigated good....

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Miss Bliss — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:35:51 GMT

The article is vague. Many people have successfully used other alternative treatments for the cessation of pain besides pills and injections....eg. dietary changes, EFT, acupuncture, Reiki, massage, network chiropractic, meditation...

...what scares me is that it will just be another means for BPharma to make $$$ money from the suffering, and for other street drug pushers to addict the ignorant and vulnerable.

My former mother in law died last December from bowel CA. She was extremely drug niave as she had never taken anything stronger than the very infrequent acetacylic acid for some minor pain. She was able to control her pain using alternative techniques right up to 4 hours before her death....