The Route to Obesity Passes Through Your Tongue

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rfontanes — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:49:17 GMT

I agree with everything about Lipton. What wasnt said that I believe is that our bodies are hard wired for 1000 years ago that when we are under stress (Cant forage any food) The body will STORE fat to survive. Today we still have stresses in our life but the storage continues, even while we feast...

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nejlika — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:48:37 GMT

Dear Patty D,

I have similar problem with obesity, caused probably by NEUROPATHY, which I have got due to a sever infection IN my SPINE and using the medicine GABAPENTIN. Before I started use it, I weighted 60kg (132 lbs) and after some months my weight went up to 158.4 lbs and after one year I weight (also now)176 lbs or more, my weight is changing, but not very much.

I have this problem, that ANYTHING works probably because my damaged nervous system. I stopped take Gabapentin - but too late, I am still fat (I am 155 cm tall, means SHORT). I am not able to exercise, I hardly can go or stand, I use my 2 legs and 2 hands to go upstairs, I am not able to use only my legs. What I have to do? What can Dr Mercola say to me?

I do about the same like You Patty D. Men - if I was "normal", I would go down in weight by using "Fat diet", i.e. 1g protein to 2.5 gram fat(animal)to 0.5-0.8 gram carbo. I know many people who went 18 kg down on this diet. Do you want know more, go to http://homodiet.netfirms.com/ . If you could Swedish, there is also a blog of a Swedish doctor, who discover this method as well and lost 18 kg never being hungry. If I do not go more up than I do, it is also because I use this proportion in my diet, but unfortunately sometimes I cannot avoid more carbo than 0,8g (for my wanted weight I should eat only 60 gram protein, ca 150 gram fat and only ca 50 gram carbo per day) and immediately my weight go up. At least read about this diet (called optimal nutrition) on the site I gave you. God luck, Anna

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jaimie — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:05:03 GMT

I read this article and have some personal interest in this. I just had my leptin levels drawn and even though I am considered obese on the BMI scale, I have quite low leptin levels, which I have heard can cause obesity because the body doesnt burn fat like it should. I do have a lot of endocrine disfunction (no adrenals, history of Cushing's). Is there any natural way to get my leptin higher, but not too high? I workout with a trainer 5x per week and still struggle with weight loss even when my calories are around 1200 a day. Any ideas are appreciated.

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Heather Marsh — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:57:55 GMT

Julieanne

I am pretty envious at this stage- but not enough to deliberately catch bronchitis.

You can afford to graze guilt-free this Christmas...and your best weight gain friend will be...all of it, but especially christmas pudding, brandied, loaded with dried fruit and custard and cream.

Bon appeitite!

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energymaster — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:34:28 GMT

I've had dysgeusia for 7 months now...I still taste and smell, but it has been radically altered for some unknown reason, and not for the better. If anyone out there has any solutions besides nasel saline rinses, zinc, B-12 and alpha-lipoic acid supplementation, I'd sure appreciate your sharing it with me.

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kingabarry — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:37:51 GMT

I think demonizing carbs does not do justice to civilizations that have been sustained by staple foods such as grains and root vegetables. These gave energy and cheap calories to the poor. The Chinese are not fat yet they've eaten rice forever. The Lord's prayer mentions "the daily bread," then there are the potatoes, yams breadfruit, maize made into flours, - all utilized for thousands of years. It was the primitive man, the hunter that was inferior mentally, socially, and probably physically.

On the other hand, food is not all it's cut out to be. There have been saints and yogics who have abstained from all foods for months or years. Something else must have sustained them. Man does not live by bread alone, - or proteins or carbs or fats for that matter.

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joanruthand — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:43:51 GMT

I am an 80 yr young GP and am part way through a quite thick book on leptin, thanks to one of my patients. It is great to hear some helpful comments from Dr Mercola on leptin. I have been testing my own leptin for some 2 years but am currently testing quite a big proportion of my patients and getting interesting results fitting in with the clinical picture and the health challenges. I look forward to hearing more. I am starting my first website (from Australia) www.drjoanruth.com -so far a blank page- on "Simply Health" spirit, soul and body. Ahead is much writing! Dr. Joan-Ruth

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Kitera — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:18:59 GMT

In early Oct. I was dignosed with Type II diabetes. I gave up all sweets and almost all grains suddenly. Now I am completely disconnected from my hunger. I eat healthy meals - but I could eat half as much or twice as much and my appetite doesn't give me any feedback. If I go too long between meals I feel sick but not hungry. As long as stay away from processed foods and baked sweets I have very little hunger. I eat small amounts of fruit after meals but this doesn't seem to get the uncontrollable hunger going. To say the least it has been easy to lose some weight but I keep wondering why this is happening.

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Timbear — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:09:54 GMT

Patti: I am sorry you are having a hard time with this. I am as well. I find myself eating to the point that my stomach hurts so bad I do not even want to roll forward to get out of my chair...and yet I want more.

Your frustration with all these different approaches is understandable because you don't want theory nor science nor stories about another skinny minnie who probably did not have THAT big a weight problem in the first place. God knows most who complain about their weight would be better off seeing to someone else's welfare rather than being so self-aborbed about losing another 10 or 12 lbs and if they were NOT so self-absorbed they might not have gained the weight in the first place. If that hurts someone's feelings, tough.

I do not have a solution for you because I do not have a solution for myself. The only thing I have finally discovered is that my hunger seems to be in my throat even when i have eaten to the point that the walls of my stomach hurt. I finally suspected that eating is my own version of drinking a six pack or getting high to get away from my problems. Trouble is, my problem is my self image, LOL, and so eating is like a slow form of self-flagellation and punishment.

Now, I do not have a solution for YOU...nor does anyone else here. What you are seeing is that everybody has a slightly different metabolism and respond differently to foods and additives. What you say you are doing IS helpful, but perhaps you are like me in one way? I have simply been lying to myself about the number of calories I am eating because I could not go to sleep unless I was miserably full.

Brown and wild rice with grilled chicken thrown in with some Smartbutter and enough parmesean cheese for a little flavor sounds acceptable to most folks, I think. My doc approves of it and that is all wonderful ....but not when I am eating the entire pot for dinner.

Start after Christmas bcos all u will do is berate yourself for now. We are all on your side. MXmas

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Heather Marsh — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:14:38 GMT

Julieanne

I wonder......cushioning fat or smooth muscle?

When I am closer to my ideal weight I definitely look scraggy around the neck and upper chest, some of which is due to the small amount of exercise I can tolerate. (In MS, heating the core body temperature by more than half a degree can impact badly on Chronic fatigue levels)

A system like Callanetics helps strengthen the large muscle groups and makes them longer and leaner rather than chunky and bulgy.

Something to consider?

Weigh loss through illness reduces both the fat supplies and the amount of lean muscle tissue.

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Michelle37 — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:51:18 GMT

Dan4511,

very insightful comments. I took a look at that article. I'm not sure what disturbed me more: the findings themselves...or the fact that they occured nearly 40 years ago.

MSG is not only still available, but widely used with names that belie its actual identity. I'm starting to rethink eating anything processed...!

Dovetailing off your comments, I'd like to add some links readers (like me) who may be eating processed foods should be aware of. They include names for MSG and food items/ingredients that contain it (often disguised with innocent-sounding names). There are also links with commentary. I hope these links are useful. I know they've got me thinking about cleaning out the cupboard-!

www.msgmyth.com/hidename.htm

www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

www.rense.com/.../msg.htm

http://www.spofamerica.com

www.msgfactscom/.../msgfact12.html

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Katie5757 — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:38:11 GMT

When you are at a restaurant.. watch how obese people eat.. they dont enjoy, taste.. they just shovel.

Patty.. if you are really sticking to calories in, and not losing weight.. what must be remaining.. fluids?

Do you have oedema? mebbe.. you should be eating foods that will act as diuretics..

Keep it natural.. like a bank account.. if you spend more than you put in.. you will have a deficit..

The best way of losing weight.. is writing down what you are going to eat. BEFORE EATING it.. with its calorific content.... and do your book-keeping, before you eat it..

The rule.. the faster you eat it, the less it counts.. is wrong..

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chubby — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:34:55 GMT

I had a very interesting WALKING EXERCISE experience several years ago --- to help lose weight -- I started walking everymorning in a neighborhood that the steets were lined with hugh old maple trees --- that formed a CANOPY clear over the middle of the street which I walked down --- I found it not only very pleasant --- but INVIGORATING ! --- I finnaly realized that I must be getting sort of a MENTAL BOOST from the TONS OF OXYGEN that theese trees were producing ---- unfortunately --- enthusiasim got the best of me -- and I ended up BRUISING a HEEL BONE by overdoing the walking --- and of course that problem seemed to take forever to HEAL --- and it unfortuneatly kind of scared me enough to forget walking as exercise --- and look for alternatives --- although I do walk on SOFT GROUND in nearby nature preserves ---- CHUBBY

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chubby — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:18:36 GMT

QUESTION ? --- My daughter and family live in southwestern wisconsin --- we are talking DAIRYLAND U S A ---- lots of small family CHEESEMAKING businesses --- MANY small BREWRIES --- LOTS OF TAVERNS and BEER --- lots of small family SAUSAGE MAKING COMPANIES --- LOTS of INTEREST in small FARMERS MARKETS ---- INCLUDING DELICOUS HOMEMADE ROLLS AND BREAD --- and yet NO SERIOUS OBESITY ! ! ! ----- OBESITY THAT IS RAMPANT IN NORTHERN INDIANA where I live ----- how do the EXPERTS explain this little iINCONSITANTCY ? ---- according to current WISDOM ? --- these people should leaders in obesity ------- CHUBBY

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padraicnoonan — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:12:50 GMT

From Naturalman

Hi Springolife

Your comments about yourself and your Mum bring me to conclude that you are making the mistake of basing your nutrition on calorie counting rather than eating the correct amount of protein/fat/carbs for your own needs. If your ancestory is from Northern Europe that would mean a large amount of fat/protein as the winters have always been long and harsh here and as Dr Weston Price's studies have shown people from these climates need a large quantity of the fat soluble vitamins (ADK&E) in their diets to survive and thrive in the harsh climates. The beauty of a high fat diet is a great feeling of satiety throughout the day as the fat/protein lines the stomach and induces a feeling of wellbeing. If one feels hungry it's a sign that our body is NOT getting the correct nutrition it requires. Being constantly hungry is actually very bad as it encourages the body to store fat instead of burning it. Dr Mercola's colleague Dr Ron Rosedale is a very lucid expert in this area and it was by carefully studying his ideas on this taboo (fat) subject that I myself finally got over the mental blocks that we ALL have in connection with consuming large amounts of fat as part of a satisfying, healthy, never be hungry diet. Forget about being constantly hungry and try increasing your intake of good fats. They are also very good anti-fungal foods which is another huge mistake with the high grain/sugar pyramid which is totally about what the food manufacturers want to sell and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with achieving your health/weight/fitness goals. Believe me they will all come together if you can break the mental anti-fat taboos and eat according to your real needs. Calorie counting is just another part of the diet food industry which always eventually leads to ill health and paradoxically weight gain. God did not design us to be constantly hungry and once you get the hang of a high fat/protein diet you never will be again.