The Growing War Between Modern Medicine and the Public

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zippitydodah — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:33:24 GMT

I'm trying to stay off BP medication, too many side effects. I told the Dr. and he insisted I take one with even MORE side effectsand also it is a statin drug. Any advice on how to lower it without pharmaceuticals?

I recently had a bout with sciatica. Dr. out of town so I went to urgent care. They MADE me get 6 x-rays, because it is mandated that if they THINK you may have back trouble they want to make sure you don't have bone cancer. Turns out that at 70 yrs old I have absolutely nothing wrong with my bones or spinal column which they say practically everyone over 40 has. Those x-rays (after Medicare cost me over $250. and were unnecessary.

Otherwise I take no meds, have tons of energy and do not feel dizzy and out of breath from the BP meds I dropped. The pharmacy and Dr. constantly make me feel anxiety over not taking BP medicine and what will happen to me if I stop it (which I did anyway).

I need some advice. I take a lot of vitamins and magnesium and a lot of Vit D, and enzymes. Maybe I need turmeric, CoQ10 and Taurine.

Thanks in advance.

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msussmann — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:26:04 GMT

Please read an excellent book entitled "Healing the Gerson Way: Defeating Cancer & Other Chronic Diseases" by Charlotte Gerson with Beata Bishop. It speaks the truth!

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Luminara — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:18:15 GMT

For those looking for a change in the doctor/patient interactions, please see Dr. Pamela Wible's www.IdeaMedicalPractice.org, a medical practice designed with input from the patients in her community. Hers is a successful family practice in Eugene, Oregon.

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bartleby — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:36:29 GMT

I am the distributor of a technology originating in the UK that has been used extremely successfully without a negative incident for over 10 years. My business partner was speaking to a medical insider about how effective our technology is and the unembarassed reply was, "There are a lot of things that really work that the public will never see because doctors can't make enough money on them." I've found this attitude to be quite prevalent and some doctors seem more interested in what I might be catering than what I have for their patients! (I don't cater, by the way - it adds to the cost). As a former patient who suffered for 11 1/2 years, now that I'm well and no longer disabled, I want that for other sufferers as well and refuse to take the medical insider attitude that it's all about the money and only the money. Americans need to wake up to the truth that we don't LEAD the way in medicine anymore and if a huge part of the medical community have their way, the only treatments that come our way will be VERY expensive and time consuming. Treatments that work safely and quickly scare EVERY practitioner other than those truly committed to healing first, money second. If they could just realize that by being the best, the word will spread and people will come! Those who do not get their patients to optimum health will lose out ultimately. Any health practitioner should work toward putting themselves out of business by 'curing' all their patients. We know they won't actually be able to 'cure' everyone because people will always have health problems and accidents will happen, but that should be the goal. Rather than relying on the closed-book system with the same patients constantly being 'treated', there should be new faces brought in because patients are maintaining their health and therefore, recommending the practitioner who helps them do that. I salute all those who want to KEEP patients well!

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houstonPHD — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:30:35 GMT

From the discussions it seems that our country needs a mechanism to release our doctors from lawsuits due to nonacute injuries. Perhaps then doctors would take a more responsive approach and listen to their patients rather than act as drive through presciption carousels. Doctors should not drop patients because of their unwillingness to take prescriptions. Our healthcare system has to allow patients to determine what procedures and medicines they are willing to take without our doctors being held accountable for the path followed by the patient.

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buton — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:35:20 GMT

I have on thing to say:

Asking Big Pharma to find CURE FOR CANCER is like asking the church to prove there is no GOD.

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graphite — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:05:44 GMT

To Julieanne

Expensive stuff to be feeding it to your plants.......magnesium oil is intended to be applied to your skin or for soaking....... Not for drinking.....Surely the instructions on the bottle must have said something to that effect....I encourage you to read the book Transdermal Magnesium......That way you will know how it will benefit you......take care

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bjmn — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:22:07 GMT

Ever see the movie "Sicko?" There was a doctor practicing in England, I believe, and he received a bonus salary for the number of patients he kept well. That included sessions on diet and the like. Wouldn't it be nice if someday hospitals provide lectures on nutrition (the non-dairy lobby kind--by the way, check out who funds the diet pamplets in the doctor's waiting rooms on calcium intake via 4-5 servings of yogurt, milk or cheese a day--yep, the dairy industry), yoga, and massage, instead of surgery and pharma drugs?

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5555 — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:49:15 GMT

I recently called for an appt. to take my 7 year old in to the dr. They tried to set up an appt. with a dr. that I didn't want. (Shortly after my hearing my third child was autistic, my 4th had a 2 month checkup. That dr. chewed us up and down for not wanting to get vaccinated and somehow we ended up getting the shots. Since then, I had called and demanded another dr.) Well, they wanted to set up an appt. with that same dr. I refused. So they said the only thing they could do was set up the appt. with the nurse practictioner. I had always liked her so I agreed. We get to the appt. and they ask all the usual development ?s. Then they get to updating the shots. I told them the only shot I was interested in doing was tetanus. They had it in a combo shot. I declined. (I got that shot and my arm was swelled & itched for a month. Shortly after, I had influenza - last Feb.) Then I got the 3rd degree about my decision not to vaccinate and reasons why I should. I was thoroughly disgusted. Last time with the nurse practitioner my decision was respected and this time it was as if she was interogating me. I feel she was probably told to. To make matters worse, the dr. for my 3rd child who is autistic, is retiring and I'm being told that 'that dr.' is taking over most of the autistic or special needs children! For my other 3 children they just won't have checkups. For my 3rd, you have to go so you can get services outside the hospital. I'll just have to try and see who else is taking over the patients.

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LindaInLogansFerry — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:55:00 GMT

I cured myself from heart palpitations and vertigo. First the heart...I had all the tests....nothing was found to be wrong. So, I stopped drinking what little coffee I drank anyway, took vitamins, stopped the water pills I was on...and guess what? No more swelling in my ankles (once I started sleeping on an airbed...no compression of my body-i'm heavy), no more heart palps. I had vertigo, same thing, doc found no reason. I took a few benedryl in case my inner ear was getting something (i did feel stuffy in my ear), then I went to chiro, and he adjusted my neck. No more vertigo. To think I wasted my money and my insurance money on stupid tests. Education, this website and others, educated yourself and I was able to help myself. I also did soak my feet in epsom salts too.

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graphite — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:00:48 GMT

Very well said "longnow". This miracle mineral called magnesium chloride is truly a Godsend. For anyone out there in cyber land that is suffering from just about any malady please and I mean "PLEASE READ THE BOOK TRANSDERMAL MAGNESIUM" BY MARK SIRCUS Ac., OMD. Over seventy percent of us are magnesium deficient. You should be able to rent it out from your local library or it can be purchased outright from any bookstore or Internet website. Just goggle "transdermal magnesium" and you will find it. My dad died of Parkinson's last spring. He lived to be to the ripe old age of ninety years old. He had the usual symptoms of Parkinson's shaking hands, stiff muscles, lack of dopamine production etc. I did not know of this miracle mineral until just a few months ago. I am sure without a shadow of a doubt that magnesium chloride would have helped him immensely. Educate yourselves about the benefits of this great product. I am currently using it and am just about done with the book.

I know we need to change the medical system as it currently stands. The many evil practices done by our medical doctors "whether with or without good intentions" must come to an end. We should gather together in the streets, organize and march to demand change. In every State and in Washington D. C. as well. We all know the reasons why they " the medical elite and those that profit from it continue in there destructive ways". There is money in promoting death. The laws that prevent doctors from prescribing natural medicines must be changed. It is time for a new awakening so please go out and educate yourselves and lobby your politicians to bring this about or vote them the hell out of office.

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Duparc — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:39:39 GMT

I may be mistaken but a MD/GP has license to prescribe only certain drugs beyond which he ventures into the arena of general knowledge and general knowledge by its nature is simply an opinion based on the breadth of one's experience. Opinions are personal and whenever a medic ventures outside of his professionalism s/he is personally accountable for any harm or mistake so it becomes easy and safer to hide behind one's professional status. While discretion accounts for a large part of a physician's work and provides a greater degree of job satisfaction it is however a questionable area that can cause confusion and difficulty. It sounds here as if we are trying to shoot the messenger.

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trini — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:21:49 GMT

I am ITP- low platelets - using steroids. Critical due to a prescribed medication. and I was just prescribed Omeprazole to counter the effects of the steorid. A side effect of Omeprazole is it can cause thrombocytopenia- low platelets I refused the medication and thanks to Mercola and the internet I have become more vigilant and have been able to find alternative natural remedies. Apple Cider Vinegar, garlic apple etc. for my stomavh. This together with Undistiled Vinegar for cleansing cleared my yeast infection caused by the steroids. The Vinegar also cured a planters wart for my son. A DNA lab in USA did an allergy test and sent me homeopathic remedies. This is my first time into homeopathy and I am hesistant to consume any pills given the damage already done to me by the traditional medics and medications. Any advice ? I read that many have gotten good results. but I am just nit sure what I will be taking and its side effects.

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chubby — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:13:04 GMT

as others have mentioned --- it can be difficult to find reasonably objective people to dialouge with about healthi ssues --- rather than give examples I have discovered that the old adage " THE EYES ARE TRULY THE WINDOWS OF THE SOUL " IS A VERY RELIABLE METHOD TO FIND --- OR REJECT ---- POTENTIAL SUBJECTS TO EXCHANGE IDEAS WITH it is very difficult to mask what the eyes will tell you ---- I also find that TOSSING SOME BAIT OUT --- ( a simple candid -- or perhaps slighly humerous observation ) can SPARK a very interesting exchange with a perfect stranger ! ---- OR IT DIES ON THE SPOT --- and you know you have encoutered someone living in fear --- or perhaps badly wounded --- or perhaps just anti - stranger / or social --- and you simply move on --- it can be great fun when you STRIKE A SYMPATHETIC CHORD with a LIKE - MINDED stranger --- and a great way to make new friends --- it is a very useful social / communication skill --- that like any skill -- requires PRACTICE --- but once learned can be great fun --- and of course it requires letting go of that youthful FEAR OF REJECTION ---- you may find that you can change lives and the world around you with these simple techniques ---- not a bad concept at all ---- really CHUBBY

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Silkroad — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:41:13 GMT

One reason the nutritional industry has such a difficult time convincing mainstream America the importance of nutrition in health, is some of the assumptions that are made. Such as: "Doctors aren’t interested in disease prevention" , "If Americans become healthier, there will be fewer jobs. Maybe this is why modern medicine drags its feet when it comes to preventive medicine."

While profit has been a motivation in the direction modern medicine has taken, there is not a conscious decision to make America sick by the medical establishment . Drug company executives take statin drugs when their cholesterol levels are high. Many doctors self medicate.

There is a long history of bias against the importance of nutrition in health. This bias is perpetuated by professional people who sincerely believe on the importance of drugs and conventional medicine to help people live longer. Attacking the medical industry with statements like above only creates walls and marginalizes the nutrition industry. Vitamin D is a good example that the medical industry actually cares. While slow to gain acceptance, it's importance to health is finally being advocated by many doctors. Until med schools start teaching the science of nutrition along with biochemistry, it will be hard to convince many doctors of its value.