The Dark Side of Soy

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HollyHealthNut — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:43:14 GMT

So, here's my question: my husband loves mayonaise. He eats it at least once a day, sometimes more. We buy organic mayo, but it is made with soybean oil. What is a healthy alternative? I enjoy hommus. While he likes some of the hommus I buy, I doubt he'd be willing to trash the mayo and convert to hommus. What is a healthy alternative to mayo? I've thought about making my own spreads with things like avocados, etc. Any suggestions on what I can realistically get him to switch to?

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Tryin-2-B-Healthy — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:07:19 GMT

I have a sincere question about soy that I hope someone can shed some light on for me...

Soy is a staple of the Okinawans' diet and they are one of the longest-lived people in the world. Why doesn't all of the negative health benefits of soy affect them? Are they consuming a different, unrefined soy?

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Marie ND — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:03:11 GMT

The confusion is over about soy. Soy is a good . Why the negative reports?

The scare tactics used by soy antagonists will leave you with meat / milk / and prescription drugs. Think about it! Is a piece of meat from a dead animal that is loaded with bugs, microorganisms, diseases, animal by products, blood, saturated fat, hormones, antibiotics, etc. causing heart attacks, strokes, cancer, disease (and

make you use more medical services and prescription drugs) - this is better than a bean ???

According to an FDA scientific review, soy does not interfere with childhood growth, does not cause pancreatic or *** cancer, does not significantly interfere with mineral absorption as long as dietary consumption is adequate, does not induce early puberty, and does not interfere with fertility. Soy may induce allergies, but that is not sufficient reason to ban it from the marketplace.

Scientific studies show that soy : (there are thousands published on the internet)

lowers cholesterol, especially dangerous and heart hurting LDL, lowers blood pressure, kills cancer cells,

has an excellent source of non saturated fat protein, lowers psa levels in men and shows greatly reduced prostate cancer, etc.

some Phytates: are found in soy, grains and legumes. Take extra mineral supplements if concerned.

Protein inhibitors are found in soy: take protein digesting enzymes if worried .

So what does all of this good about soy really do? Reduces the multi billion dollar drug/ meat/dairy industry. Cuts into their blood pressure pill profits and their chemotherapy/radiation profits (because people will be doing less of these) and cuts down on other medical services.

Most studies showing soy danger , will overload a small animal with outrageously high doses of soy protein or isoflavones, and then claim: mineral blockage from phytates, cancer, thyroid problems, hormone imbalances, etc.. email me at ohealthmedical@cs.com and i'll send you my whole study - free with references

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katheraw — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:23:34 GMT

nadyne - soy is not a staple in japan - they eat tons of seafood, sea vegetables, they get much more vitamins A and D, for just one example of the differences. if you're interested, check out the Weston Price org website - the studies are there.

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N. C. — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:20:01 GMT

I wanted to say I think its ok to eat any properly soaked organic bean even soy and black soy. I drink organic whole soymilk from eden and used to eat eden black soybeans and do not understand this anti soy situation. When I eat organic whole unfermented soy I am the same after I ate it and feel the same. I do eat a little miso with every meal and maybe that makes the difference. Why is one of the best beans under attack? I think the real enemy is non organic improperly proceesed GMO junk. Its a matter of listening to your body. If it works then it works.

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N. C. — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:01:14 GMT

I drink soymilk and think its an excellent protein fix.

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Marsha3 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:59:44 GMT

I started eating whole natural foods, until I found out that I am allergic to Dairy and Eggs, so sometimes I have to eat soy with my cereal and cooking, and I use Earth balance when I have a baked potato or other times I need butter. I have tried the nut milks---they are terrible! If they would stop sweetening it (I use unsweetened soy milk) and stop putting vanilla flavor in it, maybe I could get used to them. I did try Oat milk, and kind of liked it, but where I live is not near a big city, so it isn't easy to find. What else can I use, if I can't use the real thing?

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yves — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:57:29 GMT

hummm,, so why does our favorite Doc use Soy Lecithin?

Isn't that a bit incongruent with this 'Diktat'?

Yves

www.NoPainMoGain.com

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jcm92879 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:58:12 GMT

I have had quite a time in the last few years finding the source of terrible nerve/muscle pain in my right arm, shoulder and back. I finally traced it (after a process of elimination) to soy lecithin! I am a chocolate addict and almost all commericial milk chocolate contains lecithin as an emulisfier. Also, almost all commercial bakery products, sweets and frozen dinners use it. I also have a problem with hydrolysed soy protein, which is used in almost everything manufactured as a coloring/flavoring agent. Even my gastrologist was sceptical, as there are no "official" reports on negative reactions to soy products.. Since I'm not "allergic", they want treat is as a digestive problem, meaning I have no real disease that can be treated.

Almost everyone I know thinks I'm strange, because afterall, soy is so wonderful. I really believe the soy industry (Monsanto) is behind all of this.

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dman — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:54:39 GMT

A very good resource regarding this matter is the book "The Whole Soy Story". Everything you need to know.

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lanadeenlynch — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:43:09 GMT

Soy poisoning has nearly killed me many times within the past 13 years. I cannot eat in any restaurant within the U.S. The grocery store is so full of toxic foods and most have gone to using "natural flavors" as the secret ingredient, which I have found is made from soy, in the canned foods rendering them totally toxic to all of us.

No one seems to care. No one is doing anything about this toxic substance.

I see people with my symptoms who have been diagnosed by doctors into false diseases, drug consuming victims, and dying an early death for no apparent reason.

How can we get this substance out of our food supply?

I have been recovering from the most nightmarish of physical symptoms. I doubt I will ever be totally well from the horrors that have been done to my physical organs by soy. I am fighting back with everything I know. I cook all my own foods fresh every day, have no known soy in my foods, and am slowly getting better. It is difficult.

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Yod — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:59:40 GMT

I used to make my own soymilk - a very tedious process - when it was fashionable to do so. When I got lazy, I got the soy and rice milk stuff. Now it's just the rice milk; can't drink dairy any more. How 'bout tofu? The marinated stuff that Redwood Hills and others make is lip-smacking dee licious.

On the other hand, there's 'smelly tofu'. Guess what makes it smell. Human ***, among other ingredients. Good thing it's just in China. Or is it? en.epochtimes.com/.../57815.html

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Surya — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:11:17 GMT

"These inhibitors block uptake of trypsin and other enzymes that the body needs for protein digestion"

There is no such process in Human GI tract as "uptake of trypsin"

" unwelcome effect of denaturing the proteins of the beans so they become very difficult to digest "

Denatured proteins are easier to digest not the other way around.

This is poorly writen article

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tolife — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:20:08 GMT

I am grateful for all of the comments, but this is very confusing. I have thyroid nodules, so is Soy good/bad for me? I am type A blood, so I don't eat much animal protein; soy is an alternative. Why do Asians eat so much soy and it's good for them? Where would I get the type of soy they eat? Help!

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JulejuleLMT — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:01:25 GMT

Has anyone else that ordered the Whey Healthier Protein Meal noticed that it contains an ingredient extracted from soy lecithin (under Total Glutamine Value, Phosphatidylcholine)? What's up with this?? Is soy lecithin the only place this ingredient can be found? Especially since soy lecithin is the sludge that remains after the processing of soybean oil and is usually chock full of pesticide, herbicide, and fertilizer residues. Paging Russ and Dr. M....