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Why Nerds are Unpopular, Part 1 (of 2)

By Paul Graham
[Part 1, Part 2]

When we were in junior high school, my friend Rich and I made a map of the school lunch tables according to popularity. This was easy to do, because kids only ate lunch with others of about the same popularity. We graded them from A to E. A tables were full of football players and cheerleaders and so on. E tables contained the kids with mild cases of Down‘s Syndrome, what in the language of the time we called "retards."

We sat at a D table, as low as you could get without looking physically different. We were not being especially candid to grade ourselves as D. It would have taken a deliberate lie to say otherwise. Everyone in the school knew exactly how popular everyone else was, including us.

My stock gradually rose during high school. Puberty finally arrived; I became a good soccer player; I started a scandalous underground newspaper. By the end of high school I was sufficiently acceptable that one of the recognized class beauties agreed to go on a date with me. So I‘ve seen a good part of the popularity landscape.

I know a lot of people who were nerds in school, and they all tell the same story: there is a strong correlation between being smart and being a nerd, and an even stronger inverse correlation between being a nerd and being popular. Being smart seems to make you unpopular.

Why? To someone in school now, that may seem an odd question to ask. The mere fact is so overwhelming that it may seem strange to imagine that it could be any other way. But it could. Being smart doesn‘t make you an outcast in elementary school. Nor does it harm you in the real world. Nor, as far as I can tell, is the problem so bad in most other countries. But in a typical American secondary school, being smart is likely to make your life difficult. Why?

The key to this mystery is to rephrase the question slightly. Why don‘t smart kids make themselves popular? If they‘re so smart, why don‘t they figure out how popularity works and beat the system, just as they do for standardized tests?

One argument says that this would be impossible, that the smart kids are unpopular because the other kids envy them for being smart, and nothing they could do could make them popular. I wish. If the other kids in junior high school envied me, they did a great job of concealing it. And in any case, if being smart were really an enviable quality, the girls would have broken ranks. The guys that guys envy, girls like.

In the schools I went to, being smart just didn‘t matter much. Kids didn‘t admire it or despise it. All other things being equal, they would have preferred to be on smart side of average rather than the dumb side, but intelligence counted far less than, say, physical appearance, charisma, or athletic ability.

So if intelligence in itself is not a factor in popularity, why are smart kids so consistently unpopular? The answer, I think, is that they don‘t really want to be popular.

If someone had told me that at the time, I would have laughed at them. Being unpopular in school makes kids miserable, some of them so miserable that they commit suicide. Telling me that I didn‘t want to be popular would have seemed like telling someone dying of thirst in a desert that he didn‘t want a glass of water. Of course I wanted to be popular.

But in fact I didn‘t, not enough. There was something else I wanted more: to be smart. Not simply to do well in school, though that counted for something, but to design beautiful rockets, or to write well, or to understand how to program computers. In general, to make great things.

At the time I never tried to separate out my wants and weigh them against one another. If I had, I would have seen that being smart was the more important. If someone had offered me the chance to be the most popular kid in school, but only at the price of being of average intelligence (humor me here), I wouldn‘t have taken it.

Much as they suffer from their unpopularity, I don‘t think many nerds would. To them the thought of average intelligence is unbearable. But most kids would take that deal. For half of them, it would be a step up. Even for someone in the eightieth percentile (assuming, as everyone seemed to then, that intelligence is a scalar), who wouldn‘t drop thirty points in exchange for being loved and admired by everyone?

And that, I think, is the root of the problem. Nerds serve two masters. They want to be popular, certainly, but they want even more to be smart. And popularity is not something you can do in your spare time, not in the fiercely competitive environment of an American secondary school.

Alberti, arguably the archetype of the Renaissance Man, writes that "no art, however minor, demands less than total dedication if you want to excel in it." I wonder if anyone in the world works harder at anything than American school kids work at popularity. Navy SEALs and neurosurgery residents seem slackers by comparison. They occasionally take vacations; some even have hobbies. An American teenager may work at being popular every waking hour, 365 days a year.

I don‘t mean to suggest they do this consciously. Some of them truly are little Machiavellis, but what I really mean here is that teenagers are always on duty as conformists.

For example, teenage kids pay a great deal of attention to clothes. They don‘t consciously dress to be popular. They dress to look good. But to who? To the other kids. Other kids‘ opinions become their definition of right, not just for clothes, but for almost everything they do, right down to the way they walk. And so every effort they make to do things ``right‘‘ is also, consciously or not, an effort to be more popular.

Nerds don‘t realize this. They don‘t realize that it takes work to be popular. In general, people outside some very demanding field don‘t realize the extent to which success depends on constant (though often unconscious) effort. For example, most people seem to consider the ability to draw as some kind of innate quality, like being tall. In fact, most people who "can draw" like drawing, and have spent many hours doing it; that‘s why they‘re good at it. Likewise, popular isn‘t just something you are or you aren‘t, but something you make yourself.

The main reason nerds are unpopular is that they have other things to think about. Their attention is drawn to books, or the natural world, not fashions and parties. They‘re like someone trying to play soccer while balancing a glass of water on his head. Other players who can focus their whole attention on the game beat them effortlessly, and wonder why they seem so incapable.

Even if nerds cared as much as other kids about popularity, being popular would be more work for them. The popular kids learned to be popular, and to want to be popular, the same way the nerds learned to be smart, and to want to be smart: from their parents. While the nerds were being trained to get the right answers, the popular kids were being trained to please.

So far I‘ve been finessing the relationship between smart and nerd, using them as if they were interchangeable. In fact it‘s only the context that makes them so. A nerd is someone who isn‘t socially adept enough. But "enough" depends on where you are. In a typical American school, standards for coolness are so high (or at least, so specific) that you don‘t have to be especially awkward to look awkward by comparison.

Few smart kids can spare the attention that popularity requires. Unless they also happen to be good looking, natural athletes, or siblings of popular kids, they‘ll tend to become nerds. And that‘s why smart people‘s lives are worst between, say, the ages of eleven and seventeen. Life at that age revolves far more around popularity than before or after.

Before that, kids‘ lives are dominated by their parents, not by other kids. Kids do care what their peers think in elementary school, but this isn‘t their whole life, as it later becomes.

Around the age of eleven, though, kids seem to start treating their family as a day job. They create a new world among themselves, and standing in this world is what matters, not standing in their family. Indeed, being in trouble in their family can win them points in the world they care about.

The problem is, the world these kids create for themselves is at first a very crude one. If you leave a bunch of eleven year olds to their own devices, what you get is The Lord of the Flies. Like a lot of American kids, I read this book in school. Presumably it was not a coincidence. Presumably someone wanted to point out to us that we were savages, and that we had made ourselves a cruel and stupid world. This was too subtle for me. While the book seemed entirely believable, I didn‘t get the additional message. I wish they had just told us outright that we were savages and our world was stupid.

Nerds would find their unpopularity more bearable if it merely caused them to be ignored. Unfortunately, to be unpopular in school is to be actively persecuted.

Why? Once again, anyone currently in school might think this a strange question to ask. How could things be any other way? But they could be. Adults don‘t normally persecute nerds. Why do teenage kids do it?

Partly it‘s because teenagers are still half children, and many children are just intrinsically cruel. Some torture nerds for the same reason they pull the legs off spiders. Before you develop a conscience, torture is amusing.

Another reason kids persecute nerds is to make themselves feel better. When you tread water, you lift yourself up by pushing water down. Likewise, in any social hierarchy, people unsure of their own position will try to emphasize it by maltreating those they think rank below. I‘ve read that this is why poor whites in the United States are the group most hostile to blacks.

But I think the main reason other kids persecute nerds is that it‘s part of the mechanism of popularity. Popularity is only partially about individual attractiveness. It‘s much more about alliances. To become more popular, you need to be constantly doing things that bring you close to other popular people, and nothing brings people closer than a common enemy.

Like a politician who wants to distract voters from bad times at home, you can create an enemy if there isn‘t a real one. By singling out and persecuting a nerd, a group of kids from higher in the hierarchy create bonds between themselves: attacking an outsider makes them all insiders. This is why the worst cases of bullying happen with groups. Ask any nerd: you get much worse treatment from a group of kids than from any individual bully, however sadistic.

If it‘s any consolation to the nerds, it‘s nothing personal. The group of kids who band together to pick on you are doing the same thing, and for the same reason, as a bunch of guys who get together to go hunting. They don‘t actually hate you. They just need something to chase.

Because they‘re at the bottom of the scale, nerds are a safe target for the entire school. If I remember correctly, the most popular kids don‘t persecute nerds; they don‘t need to stoop to such things. Most of the persecution comes from kids lower down, the nervous middle classes.

The trouble is, there are a lot of them. The distribution of popularity is not a pyramid, but tapers at the bottom like a pear: the least popular group is quite small. (I believe we were the only D table in our cafeteria map.) So there are more people who want to pick on nerds than there are nerds.

As well as gaining points by distancing oneself from unpopular kids, one loses points by being close to them. A woman I know says that in high school she liked nerds, but was afraid to be seen talking to them because the other girls would make fun of her. Unpopularity is a communicable disease; kids too nice to pick on nerds will still ostracize them in self-defense.

It‘s no wonder, then, that smart kids tend to be unhappy in middle school and high school. Their other interests leave them little attention to spare for popularity, and since popularity resembles a zero-sum game, this in turn makes them targets for the whole school. And the strange thing is, this nightmare scenario happens without any conscious malice, merely because of the shape of the situation.

For me the worst stretch was junior high, when kid culture was new and harsh, and the specialization that would later gradually separate the smarter kids had barely begun. Nearly everyone I‘ve talked to agrees: the nadir is somewhere between eleven and fourteen.

In our school it was eighth grade, which was ages twelve and thirteen for me. There was a brief sensation that year when one of our teachers overheard a group of girls waiting for the school bus, and was so shocked that the next day she devoted the whole class to an eloquent plea not to be so cruel to one another.

It didn‘t have any noticeable effect. What struck me at the time was that she was surprised. You mean she doesn‘t know the kind of things they say to one another? You mean this isn‘t normal?

It‘s important to realize that, no, the adults don‘t know what the kids are doing to one another. They know, in the abstract, that kids are monstrously cruel to one another, just as we know in the abstract that people get tortured in poorer countries. But, like us, they don‘t like to dwell on this depressing fact, and they don‘t see evidence of specific abuses unless they go looking for it.

Public school teachers are in much the same position as prison wardens. Wardens‘ main concern is to keep the prisoners on the premises. They also need to keep them fed, and as far as possible prevent them from killing one another. Beyond that, they want to have as little to do with the prisoners as possible, so they leave them to create whatever social organization they want. From what I‘ve read, the society that the prisoners create is warped, savage, and pervasive, and it is no fun to be at the bottom of it.

In outline, it was the same at the schools I went to. The most important thing was to stay on the premises. While there, the authorities fed you, prevented overt violence, and made some effort to teach you something. But beyond that they didn‘t want to have too much to do with the kids. Like prison wardens, the teachers mostly left us to ourselves. And, like prisoners, the culture we created was barbaric.

Read Part 2

PaulGraham.com February, 2003



Dr. Mercola Dr. Mercola's Comments:

This article was sent to me by one of my best friends, Jonathan, who is a computer genius. He is one of the leading Apple developers in the Chicago area and is responsible for most of the high-level programming and IT support for our Web site. I forwarded it to my partner, Dr. Kendra Pearsall, who also resonated with the essay as her life as an adolescent "nerd" was filled with painful experiences of being ostracized from her peers for being different from the crowd.

Albert Einstein (who was ridiculed by teachers and peers for being "stupid") once said, "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." I dedicate this article to all the nerds in the world who have had the courage to walk to the beat of a different drummer.

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MSeebeck
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Yeah, it may have been unpopular to be a nerd, but we knew what we were doing.

Those that persecuted us too much were given wrong answers when they would beg for help.

Now those same dolts have jobs with their names on their shirts, or they work for us, or both.

"Blessed are the geeks, for we shall dominate the earth."

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nurse liddell
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hi all, i want to point out one glaring omission in this fine article.  adults do indeed OFTEN engage in vicious bullying and "mobbing" as it is known, especially in the workplace.  bullying is successful behavior. it's easy and it works. makes the bully feel safe, powerful, at least temporarily.  it's addictive.   the people who shoot their co-workers at the office are driven crazy by gangs at work who have been tormenting them, sometimes for years, with character assasination, sabotage, etc. The reason this got famous at the post office is that we have only one;  you can't go get a job at some other post office.  especially when you have seniority and pension to lose, and a  family.  adults gang up, under a sick, manipulative bully leader and torture other adults  regularly in  America, Canada, and the UK.   i know they all have numerous websites supporting the "targets" as they call them, (wanting to avoid the word "victim").  in fact though, words aside, being tortured in this way causes heart disease, suicide, alcoholism, cancers, financial ruin, murder, you name it, and i call that being victimized.  the real culprits (as with the Catholic church) are management, who fire the victim, turn a blind eye to all this, and value and reward the sociopathic agressor. because the bully (caught in his cycle of fear-driven, repetative  behavior) is an expert suck-up. his skills were learned in grade school and have become addictive habits.   AGAIN:  ADULTS DO VERY OFTEN BULLY AND HARASS OTHER ADULTS, in the workplace and elsewhere. it's common to the point of ubiquitous..  do not feel like there's something wrong with you if this is happening.  Get on the web and google this, then find or start a support group, educate your bosses with material from the web.  there are many good books on the subject now. it is a fact that "only the brightest and best get bullied."  because they pose a threat to the low self esteem of the bully. AGAIN:  MANAGEMENT MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

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VLWood
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Nurse Liddell, I wish I had read your statement years ago when I was in the workforce. Maybe it would help someone now if you could name any of the websites and/or books that you're referring to. Thanks for posting!

  
  
Jea
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I think it's a nice defense for being unpopular, but humans innately need community.  Many nerds are smart because they study to the extend they don't want to deal with socialization.  Many have odd families that never clued them in on how to socialize.  A healthy "nerd" should have a group of other nerds to socialize with otherwise he's at risk of becoming the next unibomber.  To be isolated is the worst fate for the majority of us. (Think solitary confinement in prison!)  We rely on each other for many things.  Being a nasty self-absorbed person who happens to be beautiful and athletic isn't really "popular", it's just being beautiful and unattainable.  I think this fascination is programmed into us as part of reproducing up the line of natural selection. The people we "like" are the people we can smile with and be comfortable with. The people who have the most true friends are truly popular regardless of whether they're nerdy or beautiful. The issues we face in high school are part of our growing process to realize all of life's truths.  Unfortunately some people never grow up and mature emotionally!  But fortunately most of do. eventually!

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CaptainKirk
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As one of the Geek Squad who made his varisity letter in Wrestling,

and did well in weight lifting (but was HATED by those jocks), let me add.

We enjoy being alone, or within our world (mine was computers), because we have a sense of order and control.

Also, my best friend who was WAY SMARTER than I, suffered immeasurably from his genius.  I learned this by paying attention.

See, when you are REALLY SMART, you absorb more information than everyone else at the same time.  You notice more details.  I thought EVERYONE payed attention to the number of times someone blinked while telling a story, as well as how long they locked their eyes on any given person, and if there was an irregular pause in the middle of a sentence.

BECAUSE I COULD sense these, and my buddy was AMAZING at this kind of input during a social event...  I learned GEEKS (we don't like being called nerds)

are often SO AWARE of EVERYTHING going on, that when they attempt to join in,

they are spellbound with countless calculations on the effect of their speaking in public.

In paying attention to so many things, I learned to trust my instincts.  It has been hard to explain to others, but I FOUND A WAY.

Take ANY POLITICIAN giving a SPEACH (Bill Cinton Speaches are great for this).

Tape it.  Watch it.  (Only 5 minutes is fine).

Now, rewind it.  Turn OFF THE AUDIO.  And watch it again.

This is how I feel a GEEK experiences the world.  WE GET THE AUDIO MESSAGE

quicker than it is delivered, and can watch the persons actions.

You will quickly see which candidates are WELL-REHEARSED and ARTIFICIAL.

Because we see this, we assume EVERYONE sees this.  And this now creates more social problems for us.  Geeks often crack out a joke that requires and EXPLANATION for others to get (they usually stop this unless among geeks).  Because not everyone is on the same page.

Excellent Article.  I am saving for my daughter.

  
  
heather2
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Wonderful article!  Living here in the UK, there is debate among some of my friends as to whether it is better to let our children go to the local secondary school, which is reasonably decent but large, or letting our brighter children sit the exam for the nearest grammar/magnet school which is smaller and quite competitive.  As someone who went to a grammar/magnet school in NYC in the 70s I prefer my bright child to have the option to be educated with people are actually interested in learning and teachers that are able to teach most of the time.  4th-6th grades were very unpleasant for me as I just didn't fit in, didn't know how (and later realised I was bored by what was rerequired).  Going somewhere where it was cool to think, to read, where appearance wasn't all or the being up on the latest whatever was so liberating and joyous.  It's an old debate:  educate children all together or separate some out so they can really flourish, not only academically but socially by being allowed to feel comfortable in their skins.

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Hathorhetep
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The ostracizing pains fade with time, but in my 50s i am still vulnerable (under my skin, so to say) when criticized in the same manner or for the same attributes ( not physically Euro-perfect looking, bad haircut, crooked glasses, etc.). If a child is 'picked on' in front of me for such things, I speak up - my kid learned not to do that, why haven't others?  

TV reinforces picking on the nerds and academic geeks ( look at Alan in 2 1/2 Men, one of my favorite shows).  Jeff Goldblum's characters in "Independence Day" and "Jurassic Park II", Will Smith in "I Am Legend", Gene Hackman in "The Conversation", and many other 'Manly Men' are portrayed in film and on TV as nerds who have an action adventure or two.  The he-men i know who are intellectually rich and/or adept hide it most of the time when with 'normal' guys.  How sad that a man is threatened by another's brain.

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Dr. S.
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I can appreciate Naturalpath73's comments.  I am a 50+ year old male with Asperger's Syndrome and I have always been considered a nerd.  There are those of us who do not have the abilities to develop the social skills required by the general population to avoid their rejection.   For example, I am acutely deficient in recognizing and interpreting subtle facial expressions and body language.  The areas of my brain which would normally process these activities did not develop sufficiently and I have been unable to learn these skills.  I have advanced degrees in the field of education and I stay abreast of the latest published research in the field and on Asperger's Syndrome, and, for adults with Aspergers, there is very limited success with any current treatment intervention, though some success is being found with treatment for some children with the condition.   I have attempted throughout my life to be able to interact with others in ways they will accept, but, honestly, without much success.   For me, success, professionally, has come from learning and developing artificial (to me) behaviors so that I am able to "act normal."  The reality is that society is still very intolerant of those who are different.  Thank you, California Girl, for the suggestion.  I am hopeful that there will be reasonable tolerance for future generations of those who are different.

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Mrs Yoder
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Wow! For someone with Asperger's Syndrome to speak on this subject as accurately and eloquently as you did is amazing. From what I understand, AS is similar to autism only a milder form. Many autistic children that I've met are amazingly gifted, but trapped within their own minds.

On to what I really wanted to say. I also had to develop a persona in order to interact with people on a daily basis. As my friend Jimmy put it to me: 'if you don't stop trying so hard to be weird, Gabby, you're never going to find a guy to settle down with.' He was wrong of course, since I'm happily married to a man who loves my weirdness.

What's sad is that I was considered weird when I was trying my hardest to act normal. I tried to put on a Barbie smile and pretend I didn't have a brain in my head. That was mostly to physically protect myself since I can't count the number of times I was chased into the woods by most of my class throwing sticks and rocks at me in elementary school. They really do break your bones if they hit you hard enough. Or they make you fall into a nettle patch. Ouch.

I discovered eventually that they only liked me to be intelligent if they wanted the answer to a question on a test. Then it went back to same old thing. I theorized that if I played dumb, they would leave me alone. It sort of worked. They found other things to pick on me, but it wasn't as physical as the anger they all seemed to have for a classmate who spoke using big words they couldn't understand.

The unfortunate side effect of playing dumb was that I started to believe that I was dumb. I also fell behind in my schoolwork and when I tried to reverse it years later I realized I was too far behind to catch up. So when my mother told me at 15 to leave school and get a couple of jobs to support us, it was with relief and a thankful heart. I was even more relieved and thankful to escape her house later that year and get my first apartment. :

  
  
yj4
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I'm glad the college works a bit differently. You can work to be popular, but if you don't the popular kids won't really notice or care. Most people are too busy with their own lives that they don't really care so much about ostrasizing (sp?) the little guy. Plus, my college I will go to has over 30k people. it's very easy to blend into the crowd here. Plus, I'd rather surround myself with the people who really matter and help me feel loved and accepted. That's why I love college. Sure, I could play the game and all, and I've thought about doing that, but it really is time consuming. I could learn to do it, I could take an acting class and I'm pretty good at reading people and knowing how to deal with people, but I wouldn't really have the time.

I am happy to say the in High School and Middle School I was never really made fun of much to my face or anything, maybe behind my back. I was basicaly ignored, but it was also a conscious choice. I never really tried to talk to people that were not very intelligent or interesting and just kept to my friends. I'm a somewhat attractive female, so that might have played a part in it. I don't really know if it happened to others, though.

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linnea56
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I was a nerd in high school, but I did learn how to work the system. I got tired of the rejection, and resolved to change it, without giving in on the academic front, nor by being cruel to others. I observed carefully what made the popular kids that way. I took Theatre classes in school and learned how to "act" like the popular kids. I devoted a summer to perfecting my strategy, then launched it that fall. Everyone wondered what had "happened" to me over the summer.

The biggest surprise was that I found that people were willing to turn their opinion around and like me as long as I was verbally and socially adept, dressed fashionably, etc. I did not have to act stupidly or hide my intelligence at all. There were only a few who resented the change, mostly the nerds in  my former group. I willingly let them in on the "secret" but they either did not have the skills or the desire to do the same.

I never achieved the highest status (not being an athlete or a cheerleader), but moved myself to the upper 15%, which was more than enough. I have used those skills I learned that summer, ever since, to adapt to an audience and fit in in the workplace and elsewhere.

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The word "nerd" is disparaging...so why call students who excel in school and are not socially accepted by their peers "nerds"?  The word "nerd" is merely a socially-ascribed label. We shouldn't use the word "nerd" openly and casually..as anyone reading this who may feel like they are considered a "nerd" could feel further ostracized....(not that I feel like a "nerd" but i am just speaking from a sociological point of view.)

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"Now those same dolts have jobs with their names on their shirts, or they work for us, or both."

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Although this is a nice, comforting notion (that we "nerds" - or our parents - tell ourselves in the midst of our suffering to make us feel better) - it unfortunately doesn't always work out like this.  Sometimes, people are "nerds" because they suffer from some mental-ailment/mental-illness such as Asperger's syndrome, depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, or (in my case) severe social anxiety disorder.  These mental illnesses can grow like weeds within a person's psyche as they progress into adulthood - and cruely confine the nerd to a miserable fate of not being able to translate their intellectual promise into life success.  So there has been no sweet vindication for people such as myself - in fact, my "enemies" are the ones who are, or would be (when/if they find out my situation), vindicated.  The aloof nerd who made them feel inferior bottoms out in life - rendered dysfunctional by her mental issues....that would be music to their ears.

So if some of these "dolts" are now working dead-end jobs that require nametags on their shirts - I'm right there with them.  (That is, if I was able to work.)  And in a cruel twist of irony - a lot of these "dolts" end up having jobs where I'm the one who would be working for them (and I'm so bottomed-out that it doesn't take them being a CEO for this to happen).  

And even if things aren't this severe for a "nerd" - some nerds simply never acquire the social-skills that would enable them to become particularly successful.  (One book that explores this issue is Daniel Goleman's "Emotional Intelligence".)

Life is vicious.

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California Girl
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Dear Naturalpath73:  There are lots of things to be done about Asperger's syndrome, depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder and social anxiety disorder.  Check out "The Art of Smart Thinking" by James Hardt, PhD on the use of very specific types of neurofeedback to address psychological disorders. Also, do some research on the use of amino acid therapy to adjust neurotransmitter levels.  And don't give up... you're smarter than that. Good luck!

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