@SamVed, You are absolutely right on Weston Price stance on vegetarianism. Their reasoning is good too. The PETA take vegetarianism too far, I was one of the many who would ridicule the PETA.

Those are the disadvantages of Extremism. PETA is an extremist organization and when you retaliate you tend to retaliate just like W. Price does. I know because I have gone through the same state once. I still done support the PETA but I believe that we should not be cruel to animals and we should not kill them for out food, when there are other alternatives.

This doesnt mean that soy is good. You have to understand and recognize one of the greatest strategy by the Soy industry. They saw a very good potential when people started recomending tofu as an alternative to dairy products.

From there they have been riding this wave and exploiting vegetarians.

None of the Soy meat substitutes are natural. I believe that most of soy products can easily me manufactured by any other lentil that doesnt have a strong original flavour. Soy just happened to be the easiest to grow and with GM it was the cheapest(with all the subsidies).

I have to admit thought that if you look back at history meat eating has been a part of human food. I still have to come to terms with avoiding meat.

There has to be an explanation somewhere regarding meat eating and it will come only from ancient history.

We have to decide wether we want to accept darwins theory of evolution, then we should all go raw.

I believe that we should look at Indian vedic history we might find the answer there. I have been searching there as Indian vedic society seems to be vegetarian. That will tell us if we human are supposed to eat meat or no.

Because all the dangers associated with abstinence of meat like b12 deficiency should have shown in this civilization but they seem to be the healthiest humans.

Anyways soy is bad and it is commercial product. W Price i feel is just responding anecdotally to Vegetrianism

For all of you w/more questions about soy (endamme, tofu, etc.), check out the following link:

www.mercola.com/.../index.htm

Mercola has a great search engine.  I use it all the time.

I believe the Westin A Price Foundation says it was one of Dr Price's greatest disappointments that he did not find a healthy vegetarian society in his travels. They recommend that if you are vegetarian you consider bending just a bit to take fish oil to get the needed vit A & D. I haven't heard anything ridiculing vegetarians, just presenting research to try to help humankind be healthy.

SamVed,

Dr. Atkins got a heart infection during a trip overseas, which permanently damaged his heart. His heart failure was not related to artery disease or diet related.

It's funny, I had the exact same situation.  As a blood type A female I decided to be vegatarian because (I thought) it would be good for me (and I would be saving animals from harm) and thought it would keep my weight down. First, I began as a vegan and became so sick (yes I was eating healthy - lots of greens, mostly raw veggies, only sprouted grains, lots of dried beans, etc...) that my mother insisted I eat some eggs and dairy.  After four years of this I gained 15 lbs, developed very dark circles under my eyes and my hair thinned.  Finally I decided to try an experiment and had a steak (free range, local) and that very night I felt better.

It has now been 9 years since I gave up vegetarianism.  I eat meat, eggs, dairy and of course lots of veggies and some fruit (still only eat sprouted grains though) and I feel GREAT!  The under-eye circles are gone, I am back down to my ideal weight, my hair is thick and shiny again and everyone tells me I look 15 years younger than my age.  

I just think that all the folks who want the whole world to be vegan (I know I was one of them!) are off the mark.  Humans were meant to eat meat and dairy and in fact need it.  

Maybe it's just my friends, but the ones who are vegetarian (especially the vegans) look terrible, their skin is dry, pasty and wrinkly, their hair is thinner and they just don't have that "healthy glow" about them.  This is in stark contrast to my friends who are meat/dairy eaters, they all look healthy, especially their skin and eyes.    

Dr. Mercola also had the same situation. He went on the high carb blood type A diet & became diabetic, before finding metabolic typeing & that he was a protien type.

Alec Baldwin said on TV that he's put on weight since becoming a vegetarian. You'd think he'd realise it wasn't suitable for him. He needs Dr. M's Metabolic Typing book.

Vegans have an eating disorder & are weird, eh!

Not all vegans reject any all animal products.

But still, this whole vegan thing makes my lymph nodes swell.

I wish you lived near me.  I'd help you eat those eggs.  There are people who can't eat meat but that doesn't mean that we should all not eat meat. And rationally, we are being affected by meats that contain hormones and antibiotics that contimate it as a food source. And I can't afford the grass-fed kind.   Read Deuteronomy.  God provides certain animals and fowl and fish as a food source.  If you read it, you will also see that pork and certain ocean life are not available as foods.  Certain sea life is there to feed other sea life and to clean the waters of the deep.  But we have allow ourselves to be deceived about the God of the Bible in so many ways, even to the point of rejecting Him all together.  Praise God from Whom all blessings flow and have mercy on us all in our ignorance of Him.