Hi Kel, please read that again, and the rest of the posts too.  I never said if you don't do a colon cleanse you will get cancer.  And no one is talking about violent expulsion.  I've heard you have some pretty gross infomercials, but I have never seen them.  Is this where everyone is getting their information from?  You are out of the loop on this one, girl.  Previously on another site, Islander and I got into it about colon cleanses.  I could never understand why they were so against them.  Now the truth is starting to come out.  Sorry I had to be so harsh, but hopefully we will get there. 

Sheila, I was not talking about you or even anyone in particular, I was just tossing my hat in.

Kel

Islander, let me start again.  I wish with all my heart that you had done a colon cleanse 10 years ago.  Then it would have saved you all the pain and suffering that you have gone through.  I so strongly believe this that I have been persecuted and my character has be assassinated because of it.  But I still hold firm.  You may initially have thought it was your gastroenterologist and oncologist who saved you, but don't kid yourself, you are still here 8 years later because you took control of your health.  And good for you!  I know I can't convince you, but would like to quote this from the following site "Nearly all the problems you are likely to have from cancer are related to the large bowel"
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=14326
Also there are a few more you should see, if you don't mind.
http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/SpecificDiseases/bowelmovements.htm
http://www.blogs.insidetoronto.com/naturopathic_perspectives/digestion-and-elimination/hea lthy-bowel-movements/
http://www.askahealer.com/what-is-healthy-stool.htm
http://www.colon-cleanse-constipation.com/bowel-movements.html
What do you think?

Sheila, what the heck is it going to take to make you see that some people get cancer regardless of what they did or didn't do?  From what I've seen Islander write, she has always grown her own ORGANIC produce, had her own cows and goats etc etc.   All you do by blaming the person is hurt the person who suffered the illness and confuse everyone else.  Blanket statements such as this one are tremendously harmful to people who are just learning about alternative health and painful to those who have suffered diseases such as colon cancer.  Frankly, I'm sick of you trying to "force" your beliefs on others regardless of whether or not you hurt somebody.   Even worse, is you haven't answered anyone's questions nor produced evidence that colon cleanses prevent or cure cancer.  I'm only bothering to reply to protect anyone just coming across this material for the first time.   You appear to have a very unhealthy bowel fixation.  I don't mind listening to other opinions but I do mind when your so called opinion becomes a personal attack against others, especially people who are complete strangers to you.  What if somebody reading this has just been diagnosed, runs out and does a colon cleanse in the mistaken belief that that will cure them and they die BECAUSE OF YOU?  LAY OFF!!!

Hi Patty, did you even check out those links I posted?  As they are other people's opinions, not just my own.  Obviously there are other factors involved in cancer (stress, nutritional deficiency, pesticides), but a colon cleanse is the first step, especially for those who do not eat organic.  Most people come to see my herbalist because they are having health issues.  I would estimate approx. 70% of new clients, the biggest issue is their colon.  A lot of other health ailments disappear just by doing a colon cleanse.  But usually it is this that triggers their "taking control of their health".  With BeyondOrganic's dad, I am positive it was the agent orange.  As everyone that I ever heard of who was in contact with the stuff, has either died or is dying of cancer.  Even our government paid out some of those who served and were exposed to agent orange.  There is more to Islander's story than she says, I hope that she can confide in us.  As I said in another post here, there are other non invasive ways of being diagnosed with cancer.  Not everyone needs a colonoscopy to determine if they have cancer.  There is also live blood cell analysis.
Patty, could you please show your proof that someone died from taking a herbal colon cleanse.

Sheila, I promised myself to say no more but....my comment did NOT refer to somebody dying from the cleanse (although I see it as possible with various conditions that might result in dehydration, electrolyte imbalance etc).  I was referring to somebody who has colon cancer believing your posts that a cleanse will cure it, not getting treatment and dying from that.  That's the type of harm I want to prevent.   Blood cell analysis I believe, is a big hoax and yes, I've done a lot of research on it.  Allopathic blood tests for certain cancer markers are notoriously unreliable so, in the case of colon cancer, I do believe a colonoscopy and biopsy is the best way to diagnose.  Again, prevention is everything, but nobody living in today's society can prevent exposure to all toxins.   How can you have the audacity to state that Islander needs to confide some deep dark secret.  Your arrogance is appalling.   BTW...yes I checked out the links you've given and I'm no more convinced of anything than I was at the start.  I don't buy into most of allopathic medicine anymore BUT I'm not going to buy into everything alternative either.  If it's not likely to hurt me and sounds like it may help, I'll try it.  Clay for detox worked.  Vitamin C purge (which resulted in a colon cleanse) seems to have stopped a bad respiratory infection.  I'm very open minded and if it doesn't seem harmful, will rely on anecdotal evidence to make a decision.  I also believe in things that have no scientific explanation.  I tend NOT to believe stuff that comes from sites whose primary purpose is to sell, not educate.  

Good job Patty! :)

Hi Patty, so you have chosen to incorporate a Vitamin C colon cleanse?  Wow, I thought you were against them?  Another alternative is aloe vera.  I was just suggesting a product that may work well, as have you.  I am not here to sell anything.  But I am sure by now you have closed your mind off to anything that I have to say.  But if a relatively healthy person dyed of dehyradration, wouldn't that just be stupidity?  You cannot tell me that that person's body wasn't crying out for days, for water.  And do you honestly believe that a person would take that one comment I made and run with it.  That insults everyones intelligence.  I do not take back the comment about the nurses.  That is their mentality, no one can know better than them.  Sorry to inform you, I know perfectly well how the colon works.  I can read and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.  Why do you feel that it is priviledged knowledge that only the regular medical community knows about?

Hi Patty, could you please provide the link that proves that live blood cell analysis is "a big hoax".

"As I said in another post here, there are other non invasive ways of being diagnosed with cancer.  Not everyone needs a colonoscopy to determine if they have cancer."

Since someone here feels the need to go on and on and on.....
The above comment that I copied and pasted has bothered me a bit.  I want to make it clear that I went in and will continue to go in for a colonoscopy NOT to find out if I have cancer, but to rather find out if I have a polyp (thankfully I didn't this time).  If they find a polyp they can remove it long before it ever has a chance of turning into cancer.  Whereas most polyps if given the time, will eventually turn into cancer.   I don't ever want to go through what my poor dad did.  Colon and rectal cancers seem to be one of the few that can be prevented with a colonoscopy and polyp removal.